This Shouldn’t Have Worked… But It Became a Radio Career | 4/7/26

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[Music] you're listening to at the mic with keith an independent podcast production and welcome to another edition of at the mic i am your host keith malinek i recently spent some time with jeff fisher of blaze tv we affectionately referred to him as jeffy he and i discussed a lot of stuff recently like growing up in michigan and how he lost a gig for something a microphone picked up at a football stadium and even life on the farm so let's get right to it so much stuff to discuss with jeffy

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on this week's edition of at the mic i love this guest today's guest like any guest i've had before pales in comparison this guest cast a long shadow sorry i couldn't resist it'll be the only one uh jeff fisher also known as jeffy here on the blaze radio and tv network thanks for making time man i appreciate it anything for you and at the mic yeah anything anything oh nice oh this is anything at all fun conversation anything at all all right so let's start at the beginning my life is an open book for

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you and at the mic oh yes first time i've heard the title so i'm going to continue to say it good good that way you won't forget it so let's go back to uh when you were born back around the um middle ages technically it's early 1900s nice okay cool technically so you're young you're younger than i thought yeah where were you born cause i know you're not gonna tell me when you were born i mean you can't this could be groundbreaking you want to put this podcast on the map

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i've talked about it before tell people what year you were born i i've talked about it before uh saginaw michigan okay uh you know if you look at if you look at them let's say i hold up my hand here as a map this is michigan yeah well saginaw's right here seconds right there oh right in the little webbing almost thumb in the face almost the thumb okay almost the thumb okay so that's right one of those one of the tri-cities okay so saginaw bay city midland uh-huh you know you know the famous thing about

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midland is there's you know midland michigan and midland texas both dow chemical cities just a little tidbit for you there on little tidbits well i'm trying to play detective here and so i've googled right now saginaw michigan was founded in the year of 1819 that's when it was settled but it was incorporated in 1857. so i'm going to say that you're at least early founder so you're no more than 200 years old right okay right we saw earlier we've solved that mystery

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we have the indians early founders oh wow wow did they like to be called the indians back then yes they did wow so when did they change just the indians that's what i call them okay very good very good so we you were born there we were raised there uh you kind of i mean we lived out on a farm in tuscola county uh outside of saginaw when i was a little kid and then we moved into the city the big city of saginaw when i was about five so you are familiar when you when you talk about farms and animals and stuff

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like that you you've literally lived honestly oh yeah oh yeah we lived on a farm in my i mean my grandparents were you know were farmers and my you know my mom's family were all farmers yeah yeah what were some of the duties you had to do around a farm you know that oh i remember we i mean we had a chicken coop and we had you know the milk house for the cows milked and holding well milk they still actually had machines oh at that time yeah you just strap them onto the teeth you know it sucks the milk out into pipes into the

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cooler i think the title of this show will be straps them onto the teeth that's awesome okay so farming is dangerous you know i was only a little kid okay i was a little kid i mean i just remember uh i'll tell you a little farming story i mean my my first word was always was tractor no way that's personal and uh i can remember taking naps as a real little kid three and four years old i stayed with my uncle and my uncle would be out in the field tilling and plowing the field and i would ride on the tractor

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with him until i fell asleep and he would just toss me to my hand he'd drive by and toss me down to my aunt and i go back inside just get this fat kid off of me go back in the house that's fun that's fun so um how long were you uh on the farm and uh yeah tell us about five but i mean we they had you know my family had farms you know yeah all the time when i was a kid so we're growing up but we moved into the city okay so did you moved into the city i mean the city of saginaw that's correct

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i think the mean streets like literally the pizza yeah yeah the fat jokes are wrong about his little uh helena montana but at one point uh saginaw was like the murder capital of the country per capita oh my goodness yeah we we knock them out bro so when did you when did you escape with your life from my second early 20s earlier you know see that you're freaking out some time now no no no close to the birthday i was trying to figure out if you were if you met the early 1920s yes that's what i finally got

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okay cool so where did you go like where did you go after you uh left uh i had an opportunity i had an opportunity i had to get out yeah because there's a lot there's only had to get out there there were pending lawsuits and the warrants for my arrest because there's a lot of ground to cover between your childhood and what you do today which is by the way if you're not familiar he is the host of another podcast called chewing the fat so there's been a lot of living that you've done and i want you to walk us

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through all of the stops along the way so you got out of saginaw at one point i had to get out uh due to you know as i said pending lawsuits and warrants and uh it was either go to california or florida and uh the person that i was gonna go to california uh and stay with to get started in california got arrested and uh sent back to michigan because the judge said look you can either go to jail or you can go into rehab and come back to michigan and he went to rehab and came back to michigan so i went to

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florida i decided you know what i'm going to go to florida how'd you pick florida because i had some friends there i was got a place to live a place to stay oh wow hopped on it hopped on a bus and rode florida i mean that was a fun drive too on the bus by the way because those were the days when uh greyhound and trailways were separate companies and so i remember uh greyhound was on strike here's another another more more year time if you want to look back you're going to do the history greyhound

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was on strike so i had to take trailways and so did everyone else riding the bus on trailways was two and three to a mule on those buses man it was packed it was a long ride from saginaw michigan to tampa florida oh boy straight down 75 probably oof no not really well that would you know that'd be kind of smart if you were a boss at a bus company wouldn't it just take the interstate and take you right there but no they have other stops oh they have other stops you know you have to stop it yeah you have to stop

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you know cities like toledo and memphis it's fun yeah it's fun times sounds like a good one then they have to detour in cincinnati where you have to wait for a bus three o'clock in the morning because they're out of buses and it was full wow it's fun anyway that was a long time ago you think you'd let it go by now no i have not okay long time ago and that was a time when i finally got there that i realized i i almost got ripped off because my friend was supposed to pick me up and he wasn't there

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and uh so i'm outside i'm outside the bus station and i never been there i just got my bus i got my stuff and the taxi driver was like you need a ride and i was like well yeah you know my friend's not here and he goes i'll take you where are you going and i told him i was going to uh one of the beaches they lived on madeira beach in in florida at the time he goes i'll take i take you and uh i almost went with him but i realized now that he would have taken me to madeira beach

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via you know miami and brought me back around there's no way he would have charged you know i would have i would have never been then it wouldn't have been a straight shot no he was just waiting to take some dummy you know the long way oh yeah the long ride and uh you know my friend finally showed up oh sorry man sorry i'm late boy that was a good start huh it was a real good start okay i love florida i could go back there in a heartbeat so my wife not so much not so much okay so let's talk about

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different jobs that you've held a lot of jobs i mean uh whatever you want uh i mean i don't have a lot let me talk about it before my first time let me stop for a second let me stop for a second ladies and gentlemen what i try to do is i try to get an idea of some stuff that people have have done okay over the years and so uh just a whole bunch of questions all right just a whole bunch of questions that i asked them in the email right about about siblings and stuff like that and just places you've lived and stuff

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i have never had someone be so difficult why do i need i've already talked about it talking about i've already talked about all this stuff you should just know i'm like could you please just please reply to the email and so he comes back with just like uh you know like uh what do you like to do for fun watch tv you know okay um what's something people don't know about you actually this is a funny one my age yeah anyway the only section that actually he took the time to lay out the jobs

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was all the jobs and i really appreciate that so the cleaning of the horse stalls was that up in michigan yeah that was one that was my first job i was like uh 10 or 11. worked for a mr wallace an old an old world war ii guy world war one guy because he still had his pigeons he was really old at the time when i was a little kid he still has kept his world war one pigeons above his garage and he had show ponies show little little shetland they weren't shetlands though i forget what they were called

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they were little miniature show ponies and he kept them at the fairgrounds and he asked me hey you want to come out on saturdays and uh clean the horse dolls and i'll always remember going to he goes make sure you ask your parents so i go ask my dad hey mr wallace wants me to you know work for him and go clean out horse dolls every saturday for money and my dad was like yes yes now think about this would you let your 11 year old kid today's world go with an old man on his own saturday mornings out to the

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fairgrounds in parentheses uh you know to clean the horse stalls and you know drive home i mean i don't know that i would do that today i don't know how well i know this person but that's what i mean and never mind never mind that your um angle on this dad i don't want to clean up horse poop oh it didn't matter that was a job i needed money i'm a little kid man i'm looking for candy money how was that and uh oh man was that funny oh man i mean nothing like shoveling stalls and

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hosing them down and brushing the horses and then bringing in new straw and wheelbarrowing all the old straw with horse poop in it out to the out to the manure pile yeah it was fun fun fun fun fun i don't know that it would be oh it was great okay so so do you like working around horses and working no oh where did that ruin it for you know all right so when were you a uh pa announcer for football games that was all through i mean almost all i mean i did a bunch of stuff predominantly the pa

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stuff was right after high school when i was working at a record store and a head shop at the same time it was a it was a record store in a head shop what's a head shop selling uh drug paraphernalia pipes oh really scales i need to get out oils we sold all i mean we sold all kinds of uh albums and tapes and music along with a lot of paraphernalia that is awesome oh man i i at the end i used i was managing uh i was managing one of the stores the company that i worked for had like six stores and uh they i used to i mean the

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big drug dealers of the town would come in and they'd buy their scales and their cut and all their stuff but he the one guy the biggest guy he did not want to be there when the store was open so he he would always give me a tip to be there early in the morning nice so that he could get his stuff when the store wasn't open and he would always leave an extra a tip an extra tip now the tip looks i'm gonna say is it monetary the tip looked like oh no here we go a clear mask plastic bag full of something i don't know what it

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was i don't know what it was because i you know i never tried it baking soda probably could have been i don't know i never opened it and that is awesome well good for you i want to ask you but i also was doing the pa work at that time too but and uh i did that for a long time until uh i did and i again these i've talked about these stories before but i mean my the reason i stopped doing the pa work because uh do you know in now they have like little foot pedals where it turns the mic on and off

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what you know when you're talking you know when you're talking to the uh at the pa system i'm seriously not familiar it's just a pedal or a hand button you know we have the butt handle but the foot pedal is just easy so you always remember to step on it when you talk oh that's interesting so but we didn't have that we just had a little switch on the mic on and off you know so if you forget to turn that i've had issues with forgetting to turn the mic off my entire broadcasting career

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so there was uh you know there was a uh i'm up in the i'm up in the box and we're you know first down in ten you know arthur hall you know whatever and a flag on the play and there's you know the ref throws a flag and i'm like my buddy and i used to do it used to do the pa work and we could i don't forget how much we got paid it was nothing you know we just did it for the heck of it and to have you know money to buy food yes making soda yeah and uh so you know the flag gets called and i'm like

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i i you know flag on the play and i turned to my buddy i'm like i cannot believe he called the penalty on that that is unbelievable and so you realize that the mic is on when you look down at the field and the referee the referee's you know stopping the clock and looking up at the booth and the the stands down below you were all turning their head up to the box that was my last game at the pa box for that team yeah they you know jeff we're not gonna we got anything now did you drop any words now

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maybe a little kid in here no no oh well that's disappointing well that's just funny you're a fan yeah you know uh they did not like me uh questioning the referee from the pa box sure so the bathroom incident here at the blaze that you referred to where you left your microphone on and uh i mean it could have been much worse could have been i'll say but uh you left your mic on for that you left your mic on the pa any other hot mic moments uh there was a toddler as one time comes to mind

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is uh i was working for a country station 1450 jb country no right and uh i just remember uh doing something that was wrong it was the weekend i got you know how i got that job i walked up to the i was looking for a job and i walked up i said there's a radio station in town it was a small town where my mother-in-law lived in florida and i said i'm going to go see i'm just going to go over there and talk to them and when i walked up there was one guy loading the van with equipment because

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they were going to you know broadcast a local baseball game and it was you know remote and i and i walked up and he was loading stuff and i just started loading stuff with him and he said hey my name's jeff fisher i was just you know i'm looking for a job whatever he's like well you know i had a guy just quit you can start next saturday good time and i was like i mean so he of course is there the next saturday and he's going through what needs to happen and everything on my shift and

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i get done with one time and i i just i lean back and i'm like i know i know i know i should have freaking did this or whatever and he's like he just walks into the room shuts the mic off yep yeah you know you just got to remember to turn the mic on and off it's an important thing it is an important thing important thing in broadcasting i'll say as long as we're talking about hot mic moments when i was in charleston south carolina i i sat in the corner a dark corner of the studio for the morning show and

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the guy running the board was on the other side of of me here and then the host was in the studio and i'll never forget we were all talking just i don't even know what we were talking about but this big roach the palmetto bugs in south carolina big boys crawls over my foot in this dark corner of the studio i of course drop an obscenity yeah and then i just calmly walk around over behind the board hit the the dump button good move and mosey right back to my spot great move yeah you just don't make a big deal about it

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just just make just great moves walk over there and move on so that's one time that i've been regrettable on air well that doesn't cover yourself though yeah i'm regrettable all the time but that's the one time that i dropped a bad word the other hot mic moment i guess for me would be it wasn't a microphone thing it was my last day at a radio station omaha and i was training the girl who's gonna take this evening drive board operator shift okay and it was during recorded programming i

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think it was during hannity or levin or something like that and so michael reagan back in those days so i'm just showing i'm showing her how because the traffic of course is live right always sure and so we were we would record it here and then we would a few minutes later we would hear it okay and i was just showing her on the space bar and just i'd start it and i'd stop it and i was just explaining you know you start you stop starting stuff anyway so this wasn't was real to reels

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no it wasn't real rails it was a computer so i kept starting and stopping it and it would say like this is k-car this is k-car traffic and if this is k-car traffic and it went on probably two dozen times all right over the show over like hannity or whoever and the program director comes in there and goes hey keith uh i know it's your last day but could we maybe focus while we're training here just slide the fader down a little bit yeah be nice he was a good guy but it was like i was clearly a short timer i do have a

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great uh south carolina cockroach story though we i went there for a uh for a class on uh amber alerts at one point at the university of south carolina we were there uh we went there it was some amber alert class that they were having at the university and you know the station paid for it was program director's stuff needed to know about it and uh the hotel i stayed in that's the hotel that i was laying there sleeping and i felt the bug crawl across me in the middle of the night holy cow yeah i mean i you're awake

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right then you're immediately awake and i moved tables and chairs and everything in that room until i found that son of a gun and killed it what town were you in this room well that is in colombia right columbia that's the university of uh university south carolina yeah and uh i mean it was it was this big monster cockroach and i'm used to them right i mean i'm i'm from florida i'm not they're not uncommon i got news for you okay they're not uncommon animals or bugs in the

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southern states they're part of your life yep but i hadn't had one crawl over me yet okay so in my house in charleston i was sleeping on my back and i felt and i'm a light sleeper to begin with and i felt a bug crawl right across my face across my nose jeffy and before i got to the other side i grabbed it out of a sleep i reached over the other hand and i could feel that little poke in my hand and you're like oh gosh but i'm not letting him go cause i want to know what the hell's happening

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right now i turn on the light and i take that sob and i throw it against the wall as hard as i can and it was one of those nasty palmetto but yeah and then one morning because you live this life too we get here so early in the mornings you and i are here in the sun it doesn't come up for hours forever so one morning i'm show prepping for the morning show in charleston and i'm in my cubicle in my cubby you know and uh this palmetto bug just wanders by like hey what's up you know you're like oh no this oh it's on now so

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it crawls underneath to the next cubby i go over there and i greet it and i step on it so hard man and i lift my foot up after stepping out about five times and it's like that's all you got and it keeps going to the uh to the next um they're survivors yeah yeah i did it again he kept going to the next one kept going to the next one he finally runs out of real estate and i'm waiting over there with a big box of printer paper full box of printer paper i drop it on him i jump up and down on the

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box you will die and and that day oh it happened he finally died after running four cubby holes away uh he finally met his match when when when i teamed up with the box of printer papers when i finally got this guy dead but these guys do not die no they do not okay very difficult you had a a long career yeah so then you know i mean then uh as we uh as we're going down the list uh then i moved to florida and i needed a job yeah and uh i worked uh i worked demolition i worked around a jackhammer i don't

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think you even think that's on the no demolition jackhammer yeah around a jackhammer you gotta be strong to be handling that myself myself and a guy from uh heck was he from he was a biker man we shoot i don't remember but we were working uh at the old va hospital they were they were refurbishing it all but they were demolishing the original walls and everything except the main structure the main foundation so we would show up every day and uh i mean how i got that job is a weird place in itself but uh i ended up

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showing up every day stringing a you know jackhammer up over the scaffolding every morning with my man the biker and we just knocked down walls all day long fun kind of like it was fun except you're outside you're up early every day you're running a jackhammer i remember uh it was cold and rainy one morning and the guy that was giving me a ride you know he's at the front door come on we're late we're late you're late this month was going back to bed so i needed a job this is where that's

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when i went into the grocery business okay but yeah i got that job i walked up and uh they uh they had day workers and if you finally if you got picked then you could show up every day at work okay but you had to get picked first so the first day you show up you don't get picked it's just part of the deal so you show up the next day you finally get picked because people leave all the time you know the day workers they show up they don't want to do what they leave and uh the does the amount of melatonin

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you have determine if you get picked or not it didn't at that time okay it didn't at that time uh may today i don't know that i'm just curious uh but i do know that he the uh the the head guy he told me go work with this other guy in some room in one of the buildings to tear it down and that he was so lazy and didn't do any work and the the head guy the foreman was so mad at the end of the day because i tell you something big boy you do work like that again you're not going to work here tomorrow after

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tomorrow and so he put me to work with another with an old guy the next day okay and i just uh you know i just worked real hard and did i think well the old guy was the owner of the company from alabama huh and he loaned me money for shoes because i was broke man i didn't have any money i need you know i need a job that's why i came to florida i need a job and uh he loaned me money he was really a great guy and i worked for him for quite a while until like i mean i just couldn't take

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it anymore i had enough he was a good man though he was the the owner of that alabama construction company that took care of the demolition for the va hospital in saint petersburg florida he was a good man good guy okay stop me if you have a good tail with any of these other store uh jobs you've had selling compact cleaning systems oh well that was yeah that was even before that was in michigan yeah that was uh not well uh i mean i it's the compact cleaning system is some people will tell me that maybe

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some people would say that it's like a vacuum cleaner but it really isn't because keith what do you have in a vacuum uh it sucks a vac no just in a vacuum itself what's in a vacuum nothing right i mean there's nothing in it yeah okay that's what's happening when you try to sweep with your regular vacuum cleaner but with the compact cleaning system okay we're creating a cleaning product that cleans and let me show you the difference okay and you'd show the people the difference yeah

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it worked it was a great product but it was you know really way too expensive and you know i sold maybe two and one was to my mom [Laughter] awesome awesome and then i went to work for selling carpeting for a while door-to-door okay they would they had people that would call and say hey for a free gift can we give you a demonstration of some free carpeting so you'd show up and people expect you know want the free gift but they're gonna you know you try to sell them carpeting and uh try to sell them carpeting and

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tile and then you know they sit through the presentation it's almost you know and then they you know yes or no and then they want the free gift and the free gift is nothing i mean it's a keychain yeah i mean it's a it's a little present that's you know good the compact cleaning company get into business with a flooring company and you could demonstrate that works on this new carpet uh okay so you talked about the music store and the head shop tell me about your life working at a grocery store

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i mean no offense but that seems like that would be a conflict of interest all right why would it because food is so yummy not those days what do you mean not those days those days all i did i just uh i lived on a number of other items other than food so well said so uh it was uh it was important to eat so i mean there were there may have been a number of boxes that got damaged that i could purchase at a cheaper price to take home and eat no knowing that it was fresh i had a radio station job and one of the listeners who loved us

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worked for nabisco and when i got when i got fired from that job uh you know i was out of work for a while he contacted me and said dude you need a job i'll get you a job at nabisco okay and i was like well yeah i need a job so i went to work for nabisco and then i was working part-time and you go to stores and you set up stuff and you order the goods and then they deliver the goods and you put up put up the displays you put them on the shelf you know that's what you do and that was a part-time gig and then

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they were going to give me a full-time job with nabisco i went to their big sales meeting and they were all ready to give me all kinds of equipment to take home and have a full-time job and my wife was you know at that time was like okay good you're getting you know you're back to work you got a job and i went to this meeting and i sat in the back and i told a couple of jokes during the meeting and nobody laughed nobody had a sense of humor no at the end of the day i'm like i'm not working for these people

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i'm not doing it and i can remember coming home and telling my wife look i'm not it's not going to happen i know we need to you know i know that we need extra money and we need because she had a pretty good job at the time and uh so i mean it was okay that there wasn't a lot of income from me at the time okay and uh but i was i'm not i'm not working full time for these people no not gonna happen where i'm going to go back you know i got a couple other radio station jobs then i'm going to go do

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that yeah i worked there for i went there for a while part time in between trying to get the radio station job but it was just being full time with them i guess just i just couldn't do it now i got you so when did you get into radio and before you answer that have you always from the moment you said the word tractor had a yes booming voice yeah i mean i i always when i was always the you know the the uh the announcer at schools you know i was part of the audio visual club at the schools you

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know one of the reasons that it's important to be part of the audio visual club at schools is because you get out of class other classes need your assistance so you i should i knew the whole i knew the whole school you were scared jeffy scams i would do i knew all the teachers i knew all the kids i'd show up in class set up all kinds of you know all kinds of uh movies movies equipment and show equipments and overhead projectors and all that stuff hey what's happening how you doing yeah

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i'm here for you and uh so i did all that that's cool and then i remember winning uh winning uh an album at a radio station and i went and i how old i mean maybe a little kid you know i'm a little kid that i won an album and you couldn't as a little kid you're not winning that stuff today's world right i mean i i won the the record it was you know 10 o'clock at night or something and i called him when the guy all right you come and get it and uh i remember going to the radio

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station and picking up my album and you know you want to look around i was like yeah i'll walk around and i always had you know i always had the you know the wooden stick as a microphone you're always doing all the announcing all that stuff and i remember looking in the i i seriously could still see it looking into the into the radio booth and the dj had his back to me and he's got a cigarette going and a cup of coffee and there's turntables and the mic and the dials and the lights and i'm

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like yep that i want to do that right there yep and uh that's cool that's cool so take me take me through your getting into radio it's been a long time since there's been cigarettes and coffee around with the microphone or a turntable or yeah yeah so did you learn the first board i learned on yeah it was the dials it was the it was the big pots yeah the big circles i'm calling them dials but yeah the big pots yeah yeah so instead of uh and just you know faders the sliders yeah the little

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yeah it's the same thing once you get past wow that looks so you know it looks different it's the same stupid same thing just circle instead of right yeah and you can switch you know you they're you know you have the ab program audition switch underneath and everything that's the same stupid thing so so take me through your radio career that that got you to working with glenn in tampa how did you end up with glenn i guess is the short question shark question is i was working for the radio station that glenn

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came to work for uh in tampa 970 wfla and uh the program i was working that shift that he was on as uh you know as a as a board up producer part of the show okay and uh when glenn came uh you know we pretty much hated each other uh which is true today actually it's come full circle and uh there were there may have been a day or two in there when we did when we didn't actually hate each other and then it came back but uh there was i said that he tells the story all the time he loves telling the stupid story about

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when he was in the middle of a bit and it was in the very beginning and uh he was dying it was just one of the worst bits ever and i was just looking at him like you are the worst and he went to break he points to me to go to break and i just looked at him and shook my head like no and i finally you know he finally is looking at me like got a freaking break he's got that look on his face that's fine and hit the button he was so bad we hated each other so much oh no i hated each other so much

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for a lot for quite a while but it all worked out it really did all work out and i remember actually when it worked out because we were filling in for uh he was going gonna fill in for at that time uh lionel was doing a show on premier radio networks uh 10 to one i think at night and uh you know lying no no no i don't die no and he actually started in tampa and uh and so he was glenn was going to fill in for him and i remember being part of that and we were in the small studio doing the premiere show and we actually

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realized that we had a lot in common and really liked each other oh very cool now but have you ever when you're doing chewing the fat that that's your podcast the daily podcast yes and by the time i don't know when this is uh actually oh it's never going to air i'm never going to be well then i mean they're chewing the fat and you know you can follow bits of stuff on the youtube channel so you'll be good to go this is the part of the show where i just take a picture of the person i'm interviewing and uh

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smile you're doing good there we go okay that'll be the thumbnail later okay have you ever gotten that look from chris cruz who runs the board for you for chewing the fat um when you're trying to go to a break and he's just ignoring you have you ever had to give him that kind of look or anything like that i mean i guess sometimes not as bad as me though not as bad as i was to glove there's no question about that fun uh you have a brother i do as far as siblings go i do okay so how old is he no

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uh an older brother or younger brother he's younger younger brother yeah he was born in 1902. were you guys close growing up how about today any family issues you want to discuss yeah so where does he live good talk now you did not go i'll give you the example of this is my brother my brother was born in the at the wrong time in his life all right because for years he traveled the country hop in trains and he should have just been a you know he should have been born back in the back in the days when you could actually

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do that and uh so i know that he's out he's on the list of every train company in america uh you know he's been arrested by all of them and and uh he now lives in uh colorado okay he lives up in the mountains of colorado for the longest time he traveled around trains doing uh doing uh field work you know when he needed money he'd pick blueberries up north and he'd come down south and pick orange you know he just did that kind of stuff i got you and uh you know i you're close obviously i've talked to

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him once in a while once in a while okay it's been a long time okay in a long time you uh i love him i love him though he's my brother right i i guess you do my brother right sounds like it okay you you wanted to go to college but you haven't yet both different people are you still planning to or one day go to college yeah i signed all up for it and everything so what happened to it yeah then i got a job at the record store and said hey you know i like working here instead i mean because

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i'm with you if i have a chance to make money as opposed to spend money well that's the thing the reason that i signed up for it and i guess the i guess time's up on it right there's statute of limitations on it i think wait what happened but see well my my dad passed away when i was like 14. oh man so tough huh we don't need to get into all that but yes but at the time when it was time to go to college i still was able to you know i could get some government money so security checks you know as long as i

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went to college and so i signed up to go to college so that i would continue to get the checks am i going to need to edit this out and then that that's fine i'm just saying that you know i'm just saying that i decided oh man you know what i don't want to go but i can't help but they're still sitting in the checks wait wait for how long do they send the checks in a while are they still coming no no unfortunately no unfortunately the government i wish that were the case you see them still doing that deciding i

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wish that were the case but i was still getting the 400 bucks a month from the government was there ever a moment there had to be a moment where you're like oh no oh no this must be the month they stopped sending them oh no i mean i guess it had to be after a year or so when you still have to document that you're going to school or something i don't remember okay okay you know so it wasn't very long i mean we said look it's not my look i was going to go right and then i realized oh you know i got a job and i

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think one thing leads to another that's not gonna go it's not my fault they continue to send the check you see let let me tell you a story okay and if you ever want to absolve yourself from from guilt then spend five minutes with jeffy because then you realize wait a minute i should i should let it go when i was a teenager and i bought a cordless phone and it didn't perform quite the way i wanted it to it didn't go as far didn't have a good range or whatever okay so i took it back but between purchasing

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it and returning it i had mailed in for this like 20 rebate sure and that process was already in the world you can't stop that right and then how do you stop that i don't know well the check comes in the mail weeks after i've returned it and i'm thinking to myself you know i really shouldn't cash this check oh please because it shouldn't have been a thought of it because i cuz i gave him the phone back you know i returned it and now this rebate really the rebate was for purchasing it you

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purchased it well see that's what i say spend five minutes with jeffy and then you don't feel so bad about your past sense okay you're married to amber uh amber's awesome she is so spunky no question and she's like the perfect match for you well she knows a role because it's so not how you portray oh that's so good it's in charge and you know it you know it the world knows that it's okay yeah okay she lets me play my little silly game and she's a great great cook she lets me

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play my silly game and she's like you keep playing your little game yeah but she is uh joking aside she is a great great is there anything that she makes that that you're like you know ah this isn't up to your standards amber you want to go ahead and tell us all right now there's nothing that she makes she knows she knows what i know what i like and what i don't like at 800 pounds trust me she knows she doesn't want you losing weight right well that's not necessarily true

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but it's just you know she doesn't necessarily like thinness in me well there's been there's plenty of pictures out there of me thin sure she does now and it seems like again all joking aside it seems like when you have because you've had some serious health issues that the audience is probably familiar with with the heart event and the and the last little gallbladder gall bladder issue look but but i've had i had my i had i've had a knee replacement they got rid of one body part i figured

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what the hell let's go for two take the gallbladder two ladder but they almost work as diets for you right because you end up losing weight while you're ill that's correct and then and then poor amber's like not only do i have to deal with your health issues but now you're thin oh you're thinner yeah okay uh that is a stretch okay thin as a stretch yeah there's a stretch got it three kids uh elvis being the oldest how old is he now because he's he's just really yeah whoa okay time flies man i

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know good grief i know i was just looking at some some pictures of when he was because now we're getting into uh uh you know in this time of is when uh college players are committing to universities and stuff and going through i remember i remember the whole process of colleges recruiting him around the country you know so much fun it was so fun and are you happy that he ended up with missouri yeah i mean i guess it had to be right i mean he was already he was already he really wanted to go to florida

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and uh uh urban meyer met with us a couple times and then he didn't he didn't recruit him i was really pissed and we went up there for one one camp for the university of florida and elvis looked great and i thought for sure that he was going to get an offer and they didn't give it to him i mean even the like the school magazines and stuff were talking to me and talking to him and they were like i can't believe they're not giving him an offer he was really i was really bummed

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they didn't go to florida so then he decided that he was going to go she said you know what i'm just going to go to usf i was announcing for usf at the time uh doing color broadcast for usf radio broadcast and you know yeah it would have been fine so he decides that he's going to go to uh usf and they had been recruiting him since about ninth grade wow uh what's his face uh jim levitt at the time was head coach of and they've been recruiting him for forever saying this your hometown boy

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stick with usf let's go stay home and so about a week before uh one of the players that had said they were going to go to usf from elvis school had decided you know what i'm not going to go to usf i'm going to go to west virginia and jim levitt was pissed and so when elvis called and said hey coach i want to you know make a decision i want to come to usf he goes you know i'm not ready to accept your oh i'm not ready to accept it now so he was holding it against him yes so elvis hangs up the phone and he

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goes i got to go for a drive and so he leaves and three usf coaches called the house saying coach levitt doesn't know what he's doing don't worry about it he's fine he'll have he'll get a he'll get a scholarship here levitt's just mad mad at the other kid don't worry about it everything's fine and i'm like you missed it bro you missed it your time i mean good luck good luck that's what i told him i said good luck and so when elvis was out for his drive then

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he's being pissed off at usf the coach the recruiting coach from the university of missouri who had met with us a couple times already happened to call elvis well good timing huh and said hey how's it going and so we're going to the university of missouri how great is that yeah and he played a left tackle he was awesome without the prior to the the one knee injury he would have been definitely drafted in the first probably second or third round yeah he was great and then had the injury got

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the extra year anyway it's a long you know he did get to go to the nfl and he played the nfl for the patriots for a year and uh then he whisked out and uh i wish i could talk to him now but i can't because he's a wuss okay very good your your other son max uh eagle scout recently eagle scout recently doing great he's just getting ready to turn 18. 18. i won't know how old he is after this um incredible i was just thinking about the time when he was born uh i was working with glenn and tapa glennon stu

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and i were doing the show in tampa 18 years ago and uh i came to work that day he was born early in the morning what am i supposed to do stay in the hospital all day they're fine doctors they're nurses the wife is taking care of the kid i'm fine i'm out right i got work to do what else do you need me to do i mean i took care of my i'll be back later nine months ago i'll be back later so i go i'll be back later so i go to work and i remember coming around the corner and glenn's like

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what are you doing here i was like i'm here at work we got a show to do we're putting on a national show let's go and so i just remember the bit of uh we then we then for the day and that you know there's audio somewhere out there of stu being amber waiting on the street corner for me to come and pick her up because because i just left her at the hospital so good tell me about maya your sweet little boy my smile is the only one that i was uh i actually technically kind of took the day off when she was born that was

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12 years ago right she's going to be 13 pretty soon uh i would i was forced to supposedly take the day off but she was born on june 1st which is the first day of hurricane season which is a big deal in florida exactly right so i actually she was born early too and i was so close man so close to going in and instead i just did a you know i called in and we did a big hurricane portion of the show and talked about her being born and everything but so technically i didn't go in all right because i worked

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the first day that elvis was born too he was born and he was born uh in the morning and i was uh i was running uh i was working for went dixie at the time grocery store chained then when he was born and uh i had a store to run yeah and it was like he was born and i'm like everything all right i'm out wow that's awesome so when you have down time we know that you enjoy watching tv shows and and in all honesty if i have a question about a show i'm not being smart here if i if i'm

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like hey what if that's any good let me ask jeffy 99 of the time he's like ah no i don't know or well that's a big boy show i don't know if you could have i said i started with the big boy show because of uh of pat and glenn and uh just they were when uh working with them uh it got me to you know they're like my kids with shows you know because like they you know they kind of the swearing and they can't have theirs there's too much of this and tuna okay so i started you know that's that's

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my review of of big big guy shows you can't uh you know you can watch it but it's a big guy show so there's gonna there's gonna be some big guy stuff okay you know think about that baby what else do you do besides uh watch every tv show ever produced well i do not watch every tv show okay but i do try to keep up with you know quite a few and look that the content is incredible these days there's so much good stuff out there and you know you just get locked in you know like this weekend sure i could have

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worked on other stuff sure i could have worked on this stuff but i'll date the recording of this podcast because uh amazon just released hunters uh with uh al pacino okay and they are hunting nazis yeah that looks pretty decent and uh so you know why not just binge that for the weekend how was it it was okay it was okay it was okay i enjoyed it it was a big guy i enjoyed it it is a big guy show i it is a big guy show i mean but uh um i enjoyed it i really enjoyed al pacino it made me really like him again all over again

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he's so such an incredible actor i mean i just i just love him and i always have and uh i got you know i said making fun of him just last week because his girlfriend you know dropped him because he was an elderly man now and he's old but he's so i mean the guy is incredible in this show and he's and he's just this this guy's almost 80. he's just incredible in the show but the show itself is okay i mean i i i did enjoy it and potentially it wasn't what i thought it

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was gonna be okay so i know you're the world's biggest no pun intended uh walking dead fan it's so much so that you have another podcast called talking walking dead yeah yeah let's back on to the second second half of season 10. don't date this podcast oh yeah sorry anyway sorry talking yes every every week it's on with the show when the show is on the podcast is on much better thank you give me your favorite tv show right now if you couldn't pick walking dead oh what's jeffy's number

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one show right now the stream number one show right now to stream there's a lot of really well give me a few questionable new shows that i've been trying to work through uh deputy on fox and 911 these are some of the shows that i'm forced to watch with my wife that are on um so i'm kind of and you can listen to chewing the fat and we update uh those shows as they go some of the you know i really you know what i'm fascinated with and i and i just love are the the troubled detective

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shows and there's the and i'm i whenever i find them i'm watching them and there's plenty like coming from europe netflix has uh you know european uh deputy shows you know detective shows that uh are the troubled detective you know that drinks and smokes and has has family problems but he's solving these big cases and he can't he's so focused on the case the rest of his life is a shambles i mean i just i can't get enough of those i cannot get enough of them and there's so many

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uh so many good ones uh that just you know and i don't if i have to uh have closed caption because it's in a different language i don't care i'll figure it out wow i mean i just i just love the detective shows get distracted by those clothes by the uh you know the training after a while you get a good idea of what they're saying i mean so you just kind of like okay are you learning languages through netflix uh detective i would i would say no because i could i don't know that i could

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actually talk to them in their language but you know kind of like half half and i kind of understand what they're doing where they're at i can go to the country and you know have a beer and sit down and talk and say i can't speak your language but talk to me i'll pick up something here do you have any pets right now no okay no we for a long time when elvis was on the road uh we kept his dog that was his dog yeah okay and uh king we just fell in love with that dog he still has i mean king is

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starting to get really old now and it's sad i hate that man it's really sad and it's it's going to be a sad sad day what's the number one argument i give people such a hard time over being sad about their animals and stuff but when that dog when that dog goes man it's gonna be a sad day i would like to point out that now that you mentioned this that reminds me when you go i give people a hard time about their pets dying i remember one morning i was running late i was like yeah my 17 and a half year

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old cat gertrude the one that fetches and all this stuff sorry man she died i'm running late just give you a heads up don't worry about me what hold on hold on no response like well maybe the text didn't you know what no i think he's just a jerk so i'm gonna just carry on with my day and hope that he doesn't call and ask me where are you so i just wanna suppose to respond i just want to point that out i supposed to respond i don't know oh i'm sorry take your time or whatever

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i don't know but that was just that i i've forgotten all about that until right now you go i'll give people a hard time when they're done yeah so do you have any fun talents or anything like that uh that that we don't know about i mean you do you wrote in the email response when i asked that question you wrote no talent wow that's uh it's in depth can you dance yeah yeah i think there is footage somewhere out there of you dancing i used to with uh prior to bad knees uh i mean i

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always had bad knees but prior to knees that really hurt all the time uh pretty good dancer yeah uh you know i taught myself how to juggle oh i taught myself one summer working at the record store when there was nobody there at the in those days you bought there we sold the uh dishwasher fluid it's called d3 fluid that helps clean your records your albums and i'm sure it's still available if you have albums and want to clean them you have to have something to keep them clean and i used to use the small bottles of

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that dishwasher fluid all summer long in the store and taught myself how to juggle with those oh that's great and uh what if you dropped it would it just go splash the powered plastic bottle and if it did so what it's not my store clean it up jeff fisher ladies and gentlemen no no whether it's something my product i know i care there we go i love this another question i asked in the email was uh what is something people don't know about you my age anything else you want on the job

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i mean that's just a it's a it's a thing that started because uh you know it ticked glenn off not knowing my age and in fact it's been i mean he's that's so when yes when you have something to bug actually he actually has taken my children off to the side at events and asked them seriously to tell them you know seriously is he slipping them 20s you know and uh i don't care what he's slipping and my kids answer that question they are gone get out they are gone they will find a new house to live in

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and they know it and they know it so they've they've never given up it's like he just asked me dad glenn just asked me how old you are that is so funny and it's just it's just a stupid ongoing yeah that i have not let go of now right i'm not letting go of now in fact there's only you know there's a there's a few people there obviously no it's not that big it i will tell you this is it's a it's a it's a big deal because it's just stupid it's just funny

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right it's just fun to do and drag on i know natasha knows because she's had the book travel for you before i swore her too and i wanted you to know secrecy as recently as your last birthday she still won't tell anybody i love her for that so fyi for that your secret's still safe over there uh what is something you might want to accomplish in your lifetime any big goals anything that you want to do no you're just like yeah i'm happy i'm i'm perfect so nothing i'm good what are you gonna do

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with life what's going on i love this question i guess you're supposed to have a bucket list yeah yeah that's what i was going to get to this is my last question because i asked you in the email i said um do you have a bucket list jeffy's response now yes hey i mean really that's that's i thought i thought i thought the question was do you have a shopping list and i didn't it's a bucket list was the question i guess i'm sorry i didn't anything you i don't know i

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don't think you want to travel anymore who cares do you wanna see you could see the world right in front i can't stay i can stay in my room in a comfortable chair and see the world i agree i guess 70 inch screen see the world yeah yeah and it looks beautiful at my dad my stepdad who i i love he his famous line was i yeah i traveled all over the world there's no place better than the united states you don't need to go anywhere else until you see the entire united states shut up thank you and i that's good he believed

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it and i believe it there's no i mean i there's a few places here in the states that i'd i'd like to go that i haven't been and you know i'd like to take the family you know and see some places but that you know it's here in the states what's your favorite part of the country oh florida really yeah oh florida we had i mean i love florida is it the beaches it's just just you're a big fan of humidity that's what it is the humidity i am i don't sweat enough

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i don't sweat enough that florida's really you know it's important that uh you know you walk outside the house and you sweat right uh you know and you walk from the car air conditioned to an air-conditioned building and in between you sweat you sweat um are you talking about florida or houston yeah i know uh dallas living here in the metroplex is a lot like tampa bay without the water uh-huh uh you know i just miss the water i like seeing the water but we when we lived in the northeast uh

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for a while when we were doing the show out of out of new york out of manhattan um pennsylvania was nice pennsylvania was fine i didn't mind living there which i you know i can't say that out loud because my wife will say i knew it i knew you liked it we got to move back there pennsylvania i do it that is awesome but you guys home school yeah in pennsylvania so the reason i know this this i'll just kind of click when you said that when it was a deal well when we were moving up there i wanted to live in

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pennsylvania yeah and i found a place in new jersey instead i thought oh gosh i'm going to be living georgia boy living in new jersey right kidding me and it turned out their home school laws in new jersey were much more lacks than pennsylvania so when you guys were up there in manhattan you were living in pennsylvania were you homeschooling at the time when we when we first moved there uh max went to school went to the an actual school is right but by where we were living and it was just like next door was the school

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and uh he was going there and i don't forget what happened was like we're not doing this the oversight there for we're not doing this and right so we we ended up homeschooling and you had to go to we had to go to their main building and they gave us a computer system and a printer and a whole thing that we had for their home schooling plan and so then when they you had to do the live stream and the live chats with teachers that they had said okay the good thing about that was that at least we

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were there seeing what was happening that wasn't in the school away from us okay all right so it was strange but it was better than having him go to school every go into a building away from us every day yeah okay uh you know so we were able to see what was coming in and that was it was then you know of course moving you got to load it all up and you know there's no shipping back you got to take it to the school system i mean i could i mean it's just you're right it's very frustrating pennsylvania was

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very frustrating but it can be done it can be done one thing that's nice about uh uh texas i do what the hell i want whatever yep it's like you know what i do what the hell i want my kids my kids i'm going to educate them i see freaking kids and i promise you at the end of the day my kids are going to have a lot more knowledge from learning from me and carrie as opposed to i can't promise you that for my kids but i can just tell you they're my kids i can just tell you i can do what i want

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with them they're my freaking kids i should have just left it there all right anything else you want to add here maybe we didn't cover no i like this what's the name of this thing again at the mic at the mic that's right and so and your stuff you're obviously every wednesday and friday morning you're on pat gray unleashed which is a part of the blaze love it radio and tv network work with you and pat you do chewing the fat which is available monday through friday sometime saturday i mean i do a saturday

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podcast as well we'll interview you and what time is it drop in the afternoon 3 p.m central 4 p.m eastern for chewing the fat just you know subscribe on the platform of your choice and it doesn't sound until tomorrow in europe correct i think that one through you do talking walking dead every monday when the show is on the show when dead is up we do that separately yeah no problem you're i mean you're everywhere oh what am i what am i forgetting anything else i wish you'd remember

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the bank because the only place i've not had is a bank that's my bucket list yeah that's my bucket list to have an account a bank account that actually has some money in it that's my way and so don't forget twitter jeffy jfr have i covered everything we're good anything you want to know i have an open book for you keith i'm going to open up quite a bit here am i forgetting something are you are you are you leading me to something no no not at all i was just trying i was trying to

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actually remember as i was going through listen listening all these stupid jobs i've had before trying to remember if there was a job in there that i that i can't remember that i held because there were a number of things that i did now those aren't considered jobs though those are called scams the police department frowns upon you calling them jobs all right jeff fisher everybody jeffy from the blaze thanks so much for making time i appreciate it i love it absolutely this has been at the mic with keith an

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