Kurt Cobain Didn’t Pull the Trigger: Inside the Cover-Up

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See ya later.

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And you told me we'd never survive Grabbing others' keys, we're leaving

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So sure.

that one day we'd be in this suburban world

You're part of town, guess who I saw you standing on the opposite shore

But by the time the first bombs fell we were already gone We were already, already gone Sometimes I can't believe it I'm moving past a feeling Sometimes I can't believe it I'm moving past a feeling again

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Peace.

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sometimes i can't believe it i'm moving past the feeling sometimes i can't believe it i'm moving past the feeling into the night

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you

So you understand

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While I'm still young

wanna hold her hand, show her some beauty before this damage is done

It's too much to ask, it's too much to ask They me a song

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Your love was still waiting and it's already past So move your feet from heart to pain, mend it into the grass Cause it's already past, it's already, already past Sometimes I can't believe it, I'm no

That's the feeling Sometimes I can't believe it I'm moving past the feeling again

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Who can pass the time?

Speaker 3 (06:11.756)
Alright, I really honestly I just wanted to jam the rest of the day, but.

look, the little picture is all small. There we go. Boom. OK, hi. Sorry, it's kind of mess on this end. Hi, welcome to At the Mic. It's the Thursday deep dive. I opened a beer. I tossed. The garbage can is four feet away, max. I could not get the top of the beer bottle. It bounced off the garbage can. And as I've demonstrated on previous episodes,

The toy room slash encyclopedia slash forgotten furniture slash relics of previous shows pile of the wasteland over here. So the yingling top bounced off of that. It's now been absorbed into the pile of nothingness over there. Anyway, ADD. Welcome.

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Speaker 3 (07:16.002)
Thank you. And then I made a mess and then the, you know, the nevermind. Okay. Take two. Welcome to this edition of At the Mic. I'm your host, Keith Malinak. It's the Thursday deep dive. It's a Barflee episode, which I explained this today on Pat Gray Overtime, my day job over at the Blaze, where it's supposed to be bar fly. Like you're just hanging out at a bar, telling stories, drinking drinks.

And somehow I made it into one word and now we just call it Barflee. And whenever we do a Barflee episode, I drag along my buddy, Brad Staggs, who I will introduce to you shortly along with our special guest. I think Brad and I are just gonna sit back and enjoy the ride today. That's why I went ahead and cracked a cold one. Cause I was like, I don't really have to do much of a show here. I'm gonna do it. Not that I don't get me wrong. It's not like I do much of a show under normal circumstances. But, you know, we just hang out.

Just hang out and we talk about conspiracy theories, stuff like that. Please subscribe, click the bell, wherever it is you are right now. I have a special message from Hero West, because right now we're live on Twitter and I appreciate you joining us here every Thursday and Friday at 3 p.m. Tomorrow it's going to be Brad and Rebecca again for some Friday fun. But I wrote these out. Today he's like, okay, write all these times down and tell everybody. Okay.

So these are Eastern times, even though I'm reading a Post-It note that have Central times. Don't ask me. I just old school broadcasting. So on Thursday and Friday at 3 PM Eastern, we hang out here live on X. Then at night at 8 PM Eastern on Thursday and Friday, we go live with the chat available, the live chat available on YouTube and Rumble. Let's see here. OK, so now he says Fridays at 8 AM Eastern.

We're going to put the Thursday show up on Spotify, iTunes, and iHeart. That's when you can look for it, 8 AM Eastern on Fridays. And then Saturdays at 8 AM Eastern. I hope that, God, you're writing this stuff down, y'all. There will be a quiz. And 8 AM Eastern on Saturdays, it's the Friday show that shows up on Spotify, iTunes, and iHeart. And then there you go. I hope you took notes. I'm not repeating that until tomorrow, this time. And of course, always Instagram at The Mike Show, where Gabby.

Speaker 3 (09:40.822)
always putting up great stuff and Just follow, know, subscribe whatever the hell it's called on Instagram. Do it, please She's always putting up great reels and all sorts of good stuff. No, I have I said enough Dear lord, what time is it? It's like practically an hour into the show and I finally got all the the info out there I just I had to you know, Wes wanted me to make sure that I told you and so now I have so let's get on with the show How about a Barflee episode?

I brah- no. I- I- Brad? Wake up, Brad Stags!

with your traffic on the ones and sevens. wait, I'm not there anymore. I was having a dream about, Jennifer Aniston. really did have a weird dream about Jennifer Aniston last night. And she was combing her hair and she was looking for honest opinions. told the story this morning on when I was on my cold medicine or whatever the, the chinga Horta virus, which is not an easy, that's to, you don't want it.

man you've been

Speaker 1 (10:45.166)
Let me just, you don't.

You're looking at it. By looking at it.

I wouldn't miss this. How much is the check for?

through a tunnel. Sorry.

Is it a $500? I wouldn't miss this for $510.

Speaker 3 (11:08.856)
So what did Jennifer Aniston do in your

She wanted an honest opinion on how her hair looked. And it was weird because she was styling her hair with this. And it was a Styrofoam bowl that had been formed into the shape of one of those stupid hats. I know, I have no idea. I no idea where it came from. I don't know what it meant. But she wanted an honest opinion. I'm like, it looks fine. Your hair looks great. And no, I'm not like a fan boy because I don't really, I said, I know you were on a show called Friends, but I never really watched it.

Hell, kinda.

Speaker 1 (11:38.67)
And it was the weirdest damn thing. And then I woke up.

Styrofoam, Styrofoam, cool. a Styrofoam ball. Yeah, thedailymojo.com is where everyone can find you and you do a show that starts at 8 a.m. Eastern every Monday through Friday.

Didn't you just go through a bunch of central times and now you're switching to Eastern?

No! No, I did Eastern Time!

Why do we have to do we're not in the Eastern time zone? I knew something but can you do that later tonight when I'm trying to go to sleep?

Speaker 3 (12:05.994)
YOU WERE SLEEPING, MAN!

Speaker 3 (12:10.926)
Most people live in the Eastern time zone, which is why I said that. Yes. Just you Google it while I intro Kelly. And by the way, you also do a Saturday morning thing at 10 a.m. Eastern.

that true though?

Speaker 1 (12:26.018)
Yes.

right there at Real Fred Staggs with our buddy Jeff Fisher. Okay, let me get Kelly Smith in here. Kelly, hi. That's, I hope your microphone, her microphone is not working again. I swear it has been going in and out the entire half hour leading up to this moment. At Kelly for Freedom, you should follow her. She didn't put it in her name there, but we could change that if you want to. At Kelly for Freedom on X.

And if you're in the market for a house down in Austin, Texas, apparently the market not so good for the sellers. Might be a good time to buy. You could get down there. There she is. Okay. Yeah, I got you now. I got you now. Yes. That's what is happening. It's dropping out again. All right, I'm getting this is this is getting scared. That's the word.

guys I'm having

Speaker 1 (13:21.582)
I'm

That's okay. That's okay. Hey, you're among friends. So just take your time and we'll figure it out. But I don't know where her real estate just Google Kelly Smith. Holmes and stuff. Are you looking for a home in Austin Brad?

We already follow each other.

Speaker 1 (13:40.238)
I love Austin and I have not been down there in some time, but I always loved it when it was like, hey, keep. What the hell's that? What is that? That was two.

I think I think we blame Kelly for that. Okay. I can hear you talk to us talk to us talk to us

No, you can hear me. I got the wired.

What? Huh?

Mm-hmm. Yeah. OK, OK. Don't touch a thing.

Speaker 2 (14:05.486)
I'm not

and

was that?

Speaker 2 (14:19.438)
It

Speaker 3 (14:23.029)
How is Austin these days?

Also, it's kind of a mess. I'm not gonna lie. If you're buying your gold, you're set up. There's so much out there. Sellers are desperate. If you're selling, bring your patience. That's what I'm telling my sellers right now. I mean, it's a lot of fun. There's always people that are gonna buy, that are gonna sell. There's ghosts we found in houses.

I would pay extra for a ghost in the house actually

I have had people that have requested that. had clients my first year. They were vampires. They lived their lives as vampires and were searching for haunted houses.

Did they have like the pointy teeth and everything?

Speaker 3 (15:12.174)
where they pay.

They had the pointy teeth. She wore a black corset and had a bat purse at closing. They were swingers too. It was so interesting.

like upside down by their feet on the

No, no,

I got a slinger.

Speaker 3 (15:32.556)
Thank you.

That's so cool. I love to swing like that.

No, no, no, no, no, no. We'll explain later, I said. So the vampire, the swinging vampire couple from Austin. Okay.

Sounds like fun.

Yes.

Speaker 1 (15:46.442)
Were they hot?

What?

Was she hot? Okay, that's that is Keith that is not an illegitimate question. That is a perfectly acceptable question in hashtag 2025.

She was cute. She was cute.

Speaker 3 (16:02.99)
on on on the Thursday deep dive. Swinging why? No, we told me to talk.

Good. I love the swing.

with my friends at the bar.

Will you push me if I get on the swing?

You

Speaker 3 (16:20.118)
you're wearing clothes like a shirt. Sweet lord. Okay so I'm gonna move on to the topics at hand. Kelly was brought in here because remember Kelly was on a Friday live stream when me and JP from Mercury One we were hanging out and Kelly was sharing some thoughts about I don't know some topics that I was like my gosh we gotta have you on to talk about and then here we go and and

Can Kelly watch what?

shirt on

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you skipped a whole step in there because then you you called me and you're like hey will you and then we were supposed to all three of us and then she nailed Kelly got the she read up on me and thought hell no I'm not doing that. It's a good way of getting the chingahorty virus and she's like hell no I'm not getting anywhere near him and

Okay, I'm out.

Speaker 3 (17:11.246)
So yeah, so she had something conflict come up for the Barflee for that's right, Brad. You know what, Brad? Now I'm pissed at her. Now I'm not happy. But so we scheduled it as soon as we could. And here we are. It's May 1st and we're going to do a birthday day. Yeah, it's May Day.

Thank you.

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It is May Day, May-Sember if you're a mom.

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December is what we call the school year. So you're field trips, class partie

May is seriously, in this household, May is the most chaotic month. I'm hoping this year it's different because two of the three kids aren't in school anymore, but all the events, all of the theater stuff, all of the sports coming down to the end, all the tournaments and everything, May, May, May. I never heard of it as May-Sember, but that is

Cause it's like, it's like Christmas, but without any of the presents. You just, you know, it's all the nonsense.

and and and when your kids can't drive you're having to be in 10 places at once yeah

It's Christmas.

Speaker 1 (18:29.958)
And you're and you're questioning all of your life's choices and you're wondering why the hell did I even get in myself in this position and what happened? Where where did I zig when I should have zagged?

like- okay so the boys getting an award for being awesome at scouting the girls playing a softball game but her team's an eight seed honestly they don't really have a fighting chance to win this game I guess I'll go to the boys event anyway. All right so let's get to the stuff shall we. Let's see I think we started the whole thing the conversation and the- no Brad's

I'm just going to say just real quickly, can you tell me or not, if I play something over on what should show up as Brad's screen, are you getting it and can you hear it?

I can see you on Brad's screen. I got two Brad's. Do want me to put that green screen Brad up? I that behind the scenes shot though.

Good luck to you.

Speaker 1 (19:22.871)
Alright.

No, no.

jealous. He understood the assignment.

Yeah. You never said any elements I'd like to point out Kelly. Did you if you have pictures or something we're gonna have to reenact them. You know what mean? Like I'm not reenacting the Kurt Cobain death but.

Speaker 2 (19:44.334)
Yeah, no. Not a good one.

had a lot. Yeah, okay, so Kurt Cobain. Did I disappear? No, I got you. I mean, down there below, it's just a blank screen. Down there below, there's not much going on. It just says Brad screen and then it's empty.

talking about with her car bang.

Speaker 1 (19:58.005)
Don't know what

Speaker 1 (20:04.896)
Really? all right. Anyway, top rusty.

Can we talk about the... Now, I'm not a fan of Nirvana, but...

No kidding! Well, I'm not either, but I kind of like them.

to deny their place in rock history and their influence in the early 90s. I mean, you gotta give them their due as far as influence goes. And I remember where I was when you heard the news that Kurt Cobain was dead, you know exactly where you were. it always seemed a little, no.

I don't remember where I was when I found out Kurt Cobain

Speaker 2 (20:52.04)
Yeah, I 100 % remember.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt.

No, no, no, it's kind of embarrassing. Do you want me to tell you where I was?

I don't know.

All right, I think it might have been a Friday night. It was a weird night of the week for my church to be doing an event. I remember that. And you know what? How about extremes for music? Roswell Street Baptist Church hosted in Marietta, Georgia, Michael W. Smith.

Speaker 3 (21:22.926)
I was at a Michael W. Smith concert. It worth places to be, but I'm telling you, if you're talking about Nirvana and Michael W. Smith. Right, yeah. That's right. And right before it started, the news started spreading. mean, nobody had a phone. This was 93, Kelly? that what it was? 94, okay, yeah. anyway, and I just remember it, I'm like.

There are worse places to be.

Speaker 2 (21:40.938)
was 94.

Speaker 1 (21:46.446)
31 years ago.

Yes, it's just a-

and gone longer than he was alive. He's in the 27 club, which makes it even spookier.

Okay, that's another topic, When you get to 27, if you're a musician.

What?

Speaker 2 (22:02.232)
You're a celebrity. Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Kurt Cobain. There are some other big fans.

feel that man. Mama Cass, I forget.

It might be true. Somebody graph it real quick.

The irony with mama cast chocolate and chicken bone.

Again, I don't know that that's 100 % accurate.

Speaker 1 (22:25.836)
What is it that she died? The mama cast died of a chicken bone or that she died when she was 27. No. Eating. Yes, she did. No.

I don't think she died on. Are we sure? I like first of all, Kelly's Mike's gone again. I like how Kelly just yes. Now we're just going to read her lips. I saw no, it's not. I like how she said grok it instead of Google it.

Thanks

Speaker 1 (22:49.358)
Rocket yeah, well it says it says how many? Elliot did not die from choking on a ham sandwich has been

Dare you again, I will tell you.

Speaker 3 (22:58.51)
Sorry. How would you like to be known in history, especially when it's not accurate?

Right. She might as well. What's the difference? She's still dead.

What difference does it make if it was a hamster or pneumonia? What was it? Does it say how she died?

A heart attack it says after choking on a ham sandwich. Come on. Why?

No, on. It was. OK, there's Kelly. was.

Speaker 2 (23:25.054)
It was a ham sandwich!

Shut up. She says it was a ham sandwich. Rad. No, was a, a heart attack. There were no drugs in her system. Um, ironically though, Keith moon, the drummer for the who died in the same bedroom. Mama cast was 32. was he. Oh, so we got the 27 club and the 32 clubs. So mama cast and Keith moon both.

lying.

Speaker 3 (23:53.528)
Just to check here, was Keith Moon and Mama Cass in the same bedroom at the same time? Because that would kill me.

No, no, and if she were on top of him, it'd kill him. But she's lost a lot of weight though in the past. I got it. They were both 32 years old. they were 27 plus five. What do you thumb is downing?

That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (24:16.834)
trying to tell her without interrupting you but if she doesn't look at the camera or the computer monitor she won't see me doing thumbs down. You know what I'm gonna hold your microphone up for the entirety of the show we've done it before it wouldn't be unprecedented so pick up your cell phone and just call me and I'll just do this.

she's just call me.

Speaker 1 (24:36.364)
Is this a good time for me to negotiate me running all the technical crap through my own?

Yeah, yeah, you should do that.

You volunteered yourself! You Everyone witnessed it! Brad Staggs wants to take on the role of technical producer of At the Mic Shows. look at you. that's cute. That's cute, Brad. Nice. Okay, I'm just waiting for Kelly to...

Peace.

I'm just gonna hold on. I'm go look at the Comments. I'm gonna go look at your moon Hang on a second here if I do that that makes them bigger

Speaker 3 (25:17.966)
The entirety of the show, I'm gonna be like this, holding up my microphone.

I've done look I that's how we do calls Wade Robertson says try on clicking the mute button.

Is a mute button click? she's like, I'm blonde, but I'm not.

Danny says poor Kelly

Yeah, I mean, we wanna hang out.

Speaker 1 (25:38.734)
Jim Morrison was 27, Julie forever. Hi, lap. What up? Just what we need. It's Brad's fault. It's not a hit. No, not. Which has been my fault ever. Yeah. I mean, I didn't even steal those quarters out of my mom and dad's change jar to buy Spider-Man comics when I was 12. You're the reason mommy and daddy don't live together anymore, honey. They hated you.

No, there's something with

Speaker 3 (25:58.03)
Are you the reason they got divorced, bro?

Speaker 1 (26:07.534)
Although I did walk in on them one day and it was you don't ever want to see that. Ever. I was in third.

gosh,

Kelly, please call me so that we don't have to listen to stories of Rats. So anyway.

But then, at the beginning of when I was 10, let me tell you a story about how I was climbing a tree. And I had a wart.

look at this. Hold on. I've got a call here. Hang on. it says it's a crap. Now how is this going to work?

Speaker 1 (26:39.692)
I don't know, but so far I'm having a damn good time. we still, Wade says, can we still blame Ron? Yes, it's more fun. If he takes the producer job. No, I'm not. No, I'm not.

Cause I'm going to hear myself.

Speaker 2 (26:54.254)
so sorry.

No, hang on.

Michael Daniel says, get on with it.

Yeah, well, Michael needs to relax, OK? This is free entertainment, and you're welcome.

Wait, he's the real Mike Daniels.

Speaker 3 (27:07.75)
on okay so Brad you're not gonna be able to hear Brad though is the thing yeah just letting you know so

grab a camera. know what? Just three. Just three way.

show.

How do I do? Hang on, a call. Brad, what's your number? Tell everyone your number, Brad. on, I got you. Hang on.

I'm about this.

Speaker 1 (27:29.718)
Actually, funny thing is, is I think you can, if you Google me.

give people the option to do

I'm pretty sure that you can find out because I was looking at it the other day.

Speaker 3 (27:52.002)
Hang on a second. I called Brad. Let's see if this merges or whatever. Brad, it's calling you. We're calling Brad. Okay.

All right, so I don't need to hear it. if she, Kelly, can you hear me?

This isn't gonna work.

Speaker 3 (28:10.798)
Sweet Lord, make it stop. No. merge. I'm sorry. I feel like such a boomer. Nevermind, stand by. Stand by. Okay, conference call.

Okay, you can hear me. Okay, good. So we can all hear each other. Well, gee, that's one problem solved.

I don't know. Can y'all hear her okay?

I can hear. Yeah. Yes. I can, I can hear just fine.

Okay, good.

Speaker 3 (28:44.578)
This is gonna be awkward because I can't hear. I got the wires. I don't need these earbuds anymore.

Didn't work.

We're doing it, Brad.

Brad talks or something.

I'm not gonna get tennis elbow doing this but this will be fun. So, okay. All right. So let's start with Kurt Cobain. I want to play a video here with my limited available digits. I want to play this video to kind of set you up and see if you want to comment off of this. I don't know who this is. I don't know what he's talking about. It's just.

Speaker 2 (28:56.312)
your breath.

Speaker 1 (29:22.71)
It's a way to get off the screen, that's all. It's just a way to get me off the screen.

When I saw this two months ago, said, hey, pull this for when Kelly's on. And I haven't watched it since. So here we go. All right. Now I got to reach back over here. And this is off.

gathered a team of people who have been working with a prominent lawyer based out of Seattle and will soon be based on new evidence to the Seattle Police Department. This evidence is more than enough to change the ruling of Kurt Cobain's death from suicide to undetermined or murder. Kurt's death was ruled a suicide the same day his body was found without any investigation. We have a witness who was at the house the night that Kurt was shot and he's now lawyered up and waiting to testify.

He and other witnesses saw Kurt get physically taken to the greenhouse against his will. Soon after that, the witnesses heard a gunshot coming from the greenhouse. The evidence suggests that Kurt was already dead when the gun was fired. The witnesses have never been questioned by the Seattle Police Department, but they're going to be. This is about truth. It's about justice, justice for Kurt, for his family, his fans, and for the American people.

about ending 30 years of needless copycat suicides that occur every year on April 5th. None of us were there the night that Kurt was shot. Let's try to keep an open mind about this topic until the authorities can conduct a proper investigation. Please enjoy the episode and the update on the Cobain case. Please subscribe to Matt Bell Limitless on

Speaker 3 (30:53.875)
wait, he told me his name, didn't

This is a difficult episode. Please enjoy the episode.

the episode. Yeah, and we'll take it from here. Thank you, sir.

First of all, there were copycat, there are copycat suicides. If you're going to off yourself, please don't first of all. But if you're going to do it, good grief, that is like one of the most difficult ways. It's damn near impossible to do it. Which is the whole, what started the whole ball rolling down the hill in the first place.

This isn't going to work. I'm going to do my best. know, Kelly, what's that?

Speaker 2 (31:29.496)
So we were talking about the soaked in bleach, the current cork V. Okay, you want me to start over? Am good?

you keep talking. I'm going to watch the comments as my audio engineers.

Yes, friends in the comments. Don't roast me. I'm doing my best. All right, so still to believe. I'm going to start with that. So Kurt checks himself into rehab in LA, End of March 1994. The whole band gets together. Everybody's like, hey, dude, like, your heroin use is getting out of control. We want you to get some help. He's like, all right, cool. He just had a kid trying to get himself together. So he goes to rehab.

He's there for a couple of days and Courtney like keeps calling him and calling him and calling him. Finally, she talks him into leaving this rehab story as he goes outside, smokes cigarettes, jumps a fan, takes off out of rehab, gets on a plane to Seattle, right? So this is where the story like starts. So Courtney, the day that she gets him to leave, and I guess it was Easter.

Okay.

Speaker 2 (32:38.38)
She's trying to find a private investigator to help her find him. She's in LA, like doing.

And hit pause, hit pause, hit pause. Hey, somebody comment. How's the audio? I'm waiting for y'all to tell me. Go ahead, continue.

Alright. So, she's like...

investigator to help her find Kurt Cobain. She told to leave, okay? She ends up finding this guy named Tom Grant and he's on Twitter and got a whole page and everything, tweets about it a lot. He is legit. He's retired like LAPD. I think he might have done some time in the military but like a a legit dude, right? So he talks to her.

All right, you know, I'll help you. agree upon it as she sends them to Seattle. So this is where it starts getting weird. He goes to Seattle and she's like sending them on this wild goose chase. First, she hooks them up with one of her friends. His name is Bill Carlson. And they're like, she's like, check this hotel. check this person's house. he might be in his drug deal. Just sending them all over the place. Right. He goes to the house a couple of times.

Speaker 2 (33:52.482)
She neglects to tell them about the nanny. And that's who I think that the guy in your video was talking about. So they had this nanny and his name was Callie Dewitt. He was Courtney Love's drug dealer that she just like moved in and called him the nanny for Francis, but like was selling them drugs, right? So he's living in the house. So Courtney's like missing for a couple of days. Then Tom Grant, you know, goes back and forth to the house.

Nobody tells them about the greenhouse. You know, yeah, that how he found him in the greenhouse. So how do we, yeah, a couple of days go by, she's like not being transparent with him. He's starting to get suspicious. And then one morning for whatever reason, Courtney calls an electrician. Just to the greenhouse electrician. That's good spot. He's there. He's been there for three or four days. I'm not really sure.

Right.

Speaker 2 (34:51.094)
And that's when the whole story starts getting gnarly. So the first thing that's weird in all of this, so when Todd Grant gets to Seattle, the first thing he does is check the house, right? Nobody's in it, no curbs. She doesn't need a nanny drug dealer. Nobody's there.

Speaker 2 (35:18.766)
Courtney loves a cut for our kids. She's in LA and then the nanny is there and he's like, don't know where this came from. The next day they ended up finding him.

Speaker 2 (35:35.96)
So why Courtney Love killed Kurt Cobain?

Okay, so hold on. So hold on. Is that your working theory that Courtney loves? Okay. All right. And so, so off of that premise that, my gosh, Brad, are you in the, did we interrupt an alien autopsy? Holy schnikes. That's the next topic. my gosh. Okay. So, all right. So, so your theory.

is that we need to focus on the talented Courtney love and the nanny working together. but they okay okay go ahead.

The rumor is that they did not have a prenup. And the rumor is that he had been approached to do Lollapalooza that year, or 95, I think. And they offered him $20 million or whatever to do Lollapalooza, and he turned it down. Wow.

So, Me too. I mean, I turned down a little bit less, but yeah, they came to me as well.

Speaker 2 (36:45.538)
So Courtney loses her mind over all this. He says he wants to divorce, there's no pre-enactment place, but he's not going to get anything. She's not going to get anything, and she's not going get the law to lose the money. So that kind of starts spiraling Nicole.

Okay. Right, right.

Mm-hmm. Interesting.

I'm seeing is funky. Talk about you want to talk about the crime scene for a second.

Yeah, I didn't even think of that. There's no prenup. And he turns down big money payday. Again, this is all circumstantial, but he becomes more valuable to her dead than alive because then she inherits his estate, assume, yes, being his wife.

Speaker 2 (37:16.632)
Green up.

Speaker 2 (37:30.642)
get custody of the kids probably because there was the whole thing after Francis was born that she did an interview and like flippantly said something along the lines of using heroin when she was pregnant.

so you're saying if there was a divorce, I gotcha, I gotcha.

So she lose the money. That's us to him and lose the kid. So that's the motive, right? Like what else?

Got it.

Yes.

Speaker 1 (37:57.95)
Motive means an opportunity.

Yeah, dad all of her problems are Means she's not the drug dealer that lives with them that did all of the bidding. She's not there. Her hands are clean. She called the PI the red herring that sent him on a wild goose chase. Where I'm going with that. All right, so crime scene.

I was thinking, so this is kind of like she's hiding in the open because, I mean, who's going to try and convict her?

Clinton.

Right. Yeah. She really is because she was a rock royalty at the time really. And no one's going to go after her. So she knew she could stand right there and, and, know, almost pull the trigger herself and no one was going to, no one was going to take her down because she was at that powerful in that world. Plus, you know, the people that were, she was dealing with, how did she get the cops? I wonder though to

Speaker 3 (39:14.942)
Ask your question, then I want to say something before she answers. How did she get the cops to what?

But well, and I'm not even sure what the question, if it was fully formed, go on and let me see if I can rethink what I was saying.

So let me just for the audience sake, I'm doing my best on Brad's audio because you see Brad's on the phone and on microphone. So when he is asking a question or chiming in, I have to pull him away from the microphone. So then Kelly, then if you want to wait to respond, then I can pull the phone back. see, so I'm just saying, hate to explain this on the fly, but that's where we're at. Okay, Kelly, go ahead.

solutions on the fly.

That's what I keep doing. I'm looking for a chord that might be able to fix this, but so that's that's why I'm looking around while while you're talking.

Speaker 3 (40:05.503)
to get on the phone with us. Okay.

ish.

with your audience.

I love your audience. I was really excited. You know what? They better not because we're again. I'd like to remind them this is free, okay?

and worth every penny.

Speaker 3 (40:19.95)
Everybody. Yeah, yeah. so I think if we don't cover all the topics today, Kelly, you're coming back for Barfleet 6 when you get a hard-lined microphone. Anyway, continue, please.

Speaker 3 (40:36.11)
All right, so what was the thing with the... Brad, did you have a question about the police or something?

No, I can't remember what it was, no.

Big goodness, I don't want to keep pulling the phone back and forth.

Me either.

she got the police there by calling the electrician. the electrician, I it was, I forget, was something really mundane, like to put in a light switch or an alarm or something. It goes up to the greenhouse and it had, you know, like a window screen door. And you can see Kurt Lang right there, calls his boss immediately. And then they call the police from there. So that's how the police like.

Speaker 3 (40:53.035)
That's what I do

Speaker 2 (41:16.066)
were notified and then Tom gets up that morning because it was real early in the morning. Tom gets up, he's going on, he's like, you know, day number seven, try to find Kurt Cobain and turns on the news and they're like, we found Kurt Cobain's body and he's like, why didn't anybody tell me about the greenhouse? Like WTF, right?

That's weird.

But strange, right? Why would you? And I'm putting on, know, I'm a wife. If my husband is missing for five or six or seven days, I'm not calling electrician like to the light fixtures. That's

Yeah, like look, look, hubby will turn up. But in the meantime, this switch has been out in the greenhouse for the longest time. It's really starting to piss me off. Is that, is that where the, hold on, is a serious question. Do know, is that where the electrician's assignment was in that greenhouse? Do we know?

What?

Speaker 2 (42:11.406)
was detached from the main house. There's the main house and then you've got like up the driveway. It's a garage and the greenhouse is on top of the garage. It's separate structure from the actual house. So it wouldn't be like he's going to the house to do something like this is this was intentional.

Got it.

Speaker 3 (42:30.616)
Did Kurt, did he vanish? Like, I don't know, he's a rock star. Did he ever just disappear for days at a time? Do we know?

Now, not the second now. Lost his heart. Not so, but not till he died.

You and

You notice he hasn't released any songs since his death either?

He actually did.

Speaker 3 (42:58.454)
he did! Busted, Brad! Nice try! Oh-ho!

called You Know You're Right. But apparently...

I never really liked Kelly, just for the record.

Dave Grohl has said that he has like just a stash of music that they've recorded that he will not release because Courtney would get the rights to everything, paid on everything, and he will not release it.

Speaker 1 (43:31.79)
Because she would profit because she would benefit. that what you're saying?

they never got a divorce. They were still legally married.

God.

know nothing because they went through a huge battle after he died. But who is standing in the way of the new Nirvana music from being released? okay, Dave Grohl, I didn't hear you say that. Okay, that makes total sense.

Stay close.

Speaker 2 (43:56.622)
to my dad.

Hold on, hold on. Could he, and I don't know the answer to this, could Dave Grohl pull a radio head and put the album online for free and just say, we're giving it away?

I like it. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not legal. All I know are conspiracy theories.

That's all.

Speaker 1 (44:16.814)
I'm not the legal department. I'm the conspiracy department.

Okay, so body gets found by the electrician, then what happens?

gets found by the electrician. So this is where it gets weird. The whole crime scene thing to me. I mean, the story, there's pieces of it that you're like, wait a minute, like, that's weird. That's weird. But then the whole crime scene is best released. we all know that he shot himself in the mouth, right? He had three times the lethal limit of heroin and his sister. Lethal killed him and Xanax.

Lethal, that should have killed him.

Speaker 2 (44:56.27)
So Valium, Valium in a system on top of it, right? So do regular users have a higher tolerance? Yes, obviously. Now, regular users, when they die, and I looked at the, oh, I got numbers out, the average milliliter per liter of morphine, it's 0.35, right? So that's what most people die from. And people, you these are,

Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask.

Its curve was 1.6.

Holy crap, so five times really, four times.

and volume in a system on top of it. So, if you shoot some cells, we'll get into that a bit.

Speaker 3 (45:38.936)
So hold on, before you this, before you do this, before you do this, I'm just playing devil's advocate. Let's say he did kill himself after injecting heroin into him. I have no idea. If there's a heroin addict on the line, please chime in on the chat. just wonder how long from the injection until you don't have your faculties, especially if it's going to be three or four times as much, where you can

Kill yourself. Okay.

because that's part of my argument too. Because when they find heroin users that have died, usually they're slumped over, they still got the needle in their arm and the tourniquet on or whatever.

Right, okay.

They found the needle is out of his arm and his cat, he put the cat back on it. What? He had a he had a cigar box next to him with a spoon and shit in it. Back in the cigar box, picks up his gun, aims it, and shoots himself. With three times the lethal.

Speaker 3 (46:44.214)
Because every time I see something like in the movies or whatever, it's like the hit is instant, right? Like...

Yeah, I've never done it either, but from my understanding it's like...

Why don't you enlighten us? How long till you inject yourself until you feel it?

three point five minutes.

You did Google it, didn't you?

Speaker 2 (47:03.842)
He's a great guy.

He's not playing.

I'm trying not to interrupt so I don't have to be pulled away.

phone away. Continue, Kelly. Okay, go ahead. So, so, so in other words, the crime scene, if you will, or the the heroin paraphernalia was neatly tucked away, put up nice and neat because you know, when when I'm getting high, okay, I the first thing I do is I make sure that I put everything in its right place.

We fought with five times the normal, little lethal amount of heroin in your system. He's enough after himself, right? So the next thing is, so he comes up with a shotgun, right? Kurt Cobain was not a very big man. think he was 5'7", 5'8", much shorter than me, little guy. And he was sitting down and he had his shoes on, okay? So like...

Speaker 3 (47:42.444)
Come on!

Speaker 1 (47:57.454)
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (48:04.167)
my god. And he's getting the shotgun.

Sorry, I got another call here.

Speaker 3 (48:11.566)
Sorry, is an important moment in the conspiracy theory. Let's wait until Scam Likely stops calling me. You can call from Scam Likely too? Son of a bitch has all the free time in the world.

done scam likely you always know it's a scam when it's when it's from the area code of your own phone number okay continue please he's done calling

of the shotgun. Did y'all hear me?

Yes, guy, 5'7".

Speaker 2 (48:50.7)
shotgun shoes are on you can see it in the pictures from the crime scene how do you shoot a side as a five-seven person pull a shotgun inside your mouth with your shoes on

Speaker 2 (49:06.126)
there's no.

I'm good. It's kind of morbid, but I kind of want to go get a shotgun and.

That's good point.

Speaker 1 (49:12.75)
Well the point is you can't stick your toe in the trigger guard if your shoe is on.

you reaching on copious amounts of heroin?

Thank you.

Yeah, yeah.

that you just put back in box. And listening, there were no fingerprints on the shotgun at all. He didn't have gloves on or anything, but they did. They tested it. No fingerprints on the shotgun.

Speaker 3 (49:39.662)
I'm I'm just thinking. I was trying to figure out how long hold on. me a second here. Do you have to use your feet? I have I'm sorry. I've never put the barrel of a shotgun in my mouth, you know.

He was like five steps.

So probably, I feel like, not that I've tried this, I feel like if I tried it, my arms could make it down there, no?

There may be, but then the problem is you're pushing the gun away from you. There's all kinds of physics stuff that's weird. Is it possible? Maybe.

Yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (50:16.546)
Got it. No, you're right. Continue.

Speaker 2 (50:22.574)
And then we talked about this, I don't remember as well as show was before. they immediately, no, it was your clip, immediately ruled it a suicide. They didn't do a gunshot residue test on his hands. They cremated him like the next day.

That stuff pisses me off when they, when they, all of a sudden things get, when it's suspicious, boy, let's do this quickly. Let's clean up the crime scene. Let's bury the body. Let's do all this stuff. What is that?

And this is one of my favorite.

who he used to do marketing and party with.

Speaker 2 (51:02.03)
you

who by the way is looking really rough these days.

Newsflash, she's always looked rough.

Okay, so say the thing.

I texted you an image by the way

Speaker 3 (51:19.246)
Okay, say that again. Who is the?

Speaker 2 (51:33.085)
He was in the Seattle grunge scene and did like promos and stuff and used to party with Courtney love They have a connection

Speaker 1 (51:54.176)
It's the you've probably seen it Kelly. It's the image of the the cop holding the rifle. Excuse me holding the shotgun

here we go Seattle so I'm not gonna be able to I'm not gonna be able to hold this up and y'all hear Kelly at the same time so. You're roughing it y'all Brad can you can you get this image on your screen while she talks.

the

Speaker 1 (52:17.72)
But I don't, but right now you can't see my screen for whatever reason. yeah.

That's true. Hold on. I got the most asinine fricking update from Samsung the other night. And now I can't find anything. Hang on. Hang on. This is the image that you just sent me. All right. This is is a Seattle police detective Mike Shazinski holding Kurt Cobain's suicide shotgun. Now this is in 2016. OK. Could Kurt

could Cobain have reached the trigger?

and

They're not. They're not. I'm very careful. See that? There you go. You want to comment on this? So he's holding it. Yes. See how... See the top? I mean, look at that right there. Wow. That's a lot of length. Poor word. Poor... Okay. Sorry. Sorry. So say that again. He was sitting down, not standing up. Yes, exactly. Which makes it even more impossible.

Speaker 2 (53:05.934)
Really long shot.

I didn't think you'd notice.

Speaker 2 (53:16.12)
Ready?

Speaker 2 (53:27.594)
shoes were on you can see them in the crime scene photo. There's a crime scene photo of him laying there and it's like chest down. can see it on his head or anything but you can see like the bottom of his shirt. You can see the cigar box that he neatly kept up his heroin in and you can see his shoes. He's got black bands on I think it is. So I can't say like he pulled it with his tongue.

Right, right, right, right. Okay, gotcha. Sorry, I've been...

Okay.

God, are you people still drinking?

I'll take a diagram.

Speaker 1 (54:00.394)
That's what I do is I hide my vodka in Dr. Pepper too.

I don't have enough hands to do, okay, enough of this talk. Continue, please.

Okay, so then the other one, if we're talking about it a little before we came on, it was on the curve.

So he died in 94. This was like 97 or 98 or something. And it's like some dude with a camcorder, he goes to Seattle, and he talks to a bunch of people. It's super interesting. I think you can only find it on YouTube now. But he talks to this guy, and his name, his stage name was El Duche. Okay? And El Duche was this big, rock, slimy, gnarly dude. And he claims...

Speaker 3 (54:58.73)
shi-

Speaker 3 (55:08.414)
classy.

Yeah, it's awesome. Like three days later, dude dies, hit by a train.

see, all right, I don't care for this. Now, see, I've never spent a lot of time thinking about the Kurt Cobain death and suicide, reported suicide. But I've always heard rumblings. You start spitting out facts like that. Now I'm getting a little suspicious, you know?

Well, and that's just it. That first documentary, the Curt and Courtney thing, I remember seeing that early, mid aughts and thinking, she killed him. She hadn't killed. It all made perfect sense. Courtney Love, if you've ever been through a divorce, you know people can get crazy. And that made absolute perfect sense that she would have been like, screw this, I'm going to have him offed.

Speaker 3 (56:09.6)
I don't like it. It is sad. Man, that sucks. How many kids do they have,

Just one, Francis, who just had a baby. And this is like so poetic, like so 90s poetic. I don't know if y'all know this. She just got married and had a baby with.

that is nice.

away

Speaker 1 (56:32.216)
love Tony Hawk's.

Speaker 3 (56:36.334)
Can you skateboard? Are you a poser?

Speaker 3 (56:44.366)
You know what I used to do? Hold on. You know what I used to do? The only thing I could do on a skateboard is Nana and Papa used to live at the top of this hill in their neighborhood, about three houses up from the very top. And I would take the skateboard and I would lay... Now, I want you to imagine kids doing this today, people would have a panic attack and there's no helmets involved, nothing like that. And I would get on... This is the only thing I could do on a skateboard is I would lay on my belly at the very top of this very high hill.

and go flying down it in the neighborhood. And you had to hope that nobody came to the intersection at the bottom of the hill at the time I was flying by there. I mean, I was booking it, man. And,

That's a way to drag your junk on the asphalt too.

Nah, trust me, there were parameters involved that protected the junk, okay? Just don't worry about the junk. Okay, continue please, Kelly.

I'm always worried about your junk. I can't help it.

Speaker 2 (57:43.48)
you

Look, I haven't had that much to drink.

Speaker 2 (57:54.798)
you with all of this is the shotgun shell. The way that the gun was positioned should have shot up and to the right and it was found to the left of him. Oh we did talk about the...

Right, I'd forgotten about that. It would have had to like jump over the gun. Yeah, that's right. You know what she's saying,

it was supposed to shoot out to the right and up and out to the right. had a trajectory guy be like okay yeah this is where it should have landed.

Yeah.

Bye.

Speaker 3 (58:30.013)
You know what?

Was there anything, was there anything it could have hit and bounced off of?

You know, Hole has this pretty decent album. You know, but now I'm pissed. Now I don't like their song.

I love whole.

Speaker 1 (58:44.6)
You don't like hole anymore? Everybody loves hole.

So, say that again, say that again, Kelly.

Do it.

Okay, what did it say?

in the greenhouse. So it's a greenhouse, right? And on the sides of the greenhouse are like planter boxes. There's like nothing else. There's like a chair in there, like maybe a shovel and then just like empty dirt planter boxes. And in one of the planter boxes, there's like a piece of paper and there was a pen stuck through it into the dirt. Like so dramatic, right?

Speaker 3 (59:16.718)
you

Speaker 2 (59:27.822)
in it that says to Boda, which was like his childhood imaginary friends. And it's this nice note and like it all kind of flows and I'm sure you can rocket find it or Google it. it's the theory, the same is that it was like he was getting out of music, right? Well, at the very end of it, the handwriting doesn't match. Okay. And then there's like four lines and it says like, take care of Francis. I love you, Courtney. Go on.

And it doesn't match, right? So they find that at the scene. A couple of days later, Kurt and Courtney had a lawyer. name was Rosemary Carroll. at some point during the chaos, I right after they found the body, Courtney goes over to the lawyer's house and leaves her backpack there. The lawyer, what, did you lose it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:26.158)
Rosemary opened the backpack. And what does she find in the backpack? It was her own words. It was handwriting practice notes.

shit! That's a smoking gun!

No, that was at the scene next to Kurt.

Oh yeah, well played, yeah.

in the handwriting practice notes matched what was at the end of her, the suicide scene that didn't match.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56.801)
Wow. So hang on. Continue, and then I have a question for you.

I mean, it's just so about pretty much that she was practicing the last forgery. So she found this note that he had written and the theory of the legend is that it was to his fans. He was stepping back from music. He wanted to focus on being a dad. He was gonna do stuff with R.E.M. And he was like putting it all together as kind of like a goodbye to his fans, leaving music. And then she finds it.

scribble some crap on the bottom to make it look like a suicide note, right? And then they find the practice that matches the scribble.

Yeah, my gosh.

I'm gonna I'm gonna mute I'm gonna mute Brad for just a second just talk No, hang on. Just keep talking through the phone there cuz I don't want the echo like you You go you go Brad

Speaker 1 (01:01:48.184)
Me, me or him?

Speaker 1 (01:01:53.656)
I gonna say, god, now I hear me. Okay, if I do that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01.504)
just take those out because I can't hear me anyway so I just said keep a the note I think you were talking about Kelly I would show it to you but I can't hear you

Speaker 2 (01:02:18.862)
Yeah, because it's something, it doesn't...

Speaker 2 (01:02:26.264)
Yeah, because it doesn't it doesn't flow with the rest of the letter. The handwriting isn't the same as the letter. And then I guess it is been a while since I've looked at it all. But what was written those last four lines, like you can see some of the words being practiced in the

That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52.738)
but my phone's busy. Hang on. Hang on, I'm going to just keep you muted, because then I can just use your audio through here and then I have to worry about it. Hang on. Hang on. Y'all don't say anything. Hang on. Did I miss anything good, by the way? Hang on. OK. my gosh, this stupid ass update from Samsung. You're going to hear from me. Hang on. Look at this. Here's the note, y'all. Hang on. So it's, see if y'all can tell.

Thank

Speaker 2 (01:03:07.182)
just talking about the note.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22.2)
So here's the note, right? So you're saying, and I haven't, I don't have time to read the note on the fly without. Okay. But this is probably a legit Kurt Cobain note. Okay. So, so, okay. So watch this, watch this. That's Kurt's handwriting right now. Here's the last four. I'm going to try to, I'm going to try to frame it so that y'all can see, so that y'all can see half of his. And then the other half is the handwriting that does not match.

at all. Can you see that? Look at the top and then look at that. Why doesn't it focus? Look at that. That is. That is. Boy, this is.

notes they found those like words in there like it wasn't exactly like

So it wasn't just like practicing a parent's signature before you turn in the field trip slip. It was those exact phrases. Okay. So to the point to the video we played there, and I'm so bad at what, was that by the

Anyway, are the police, did they reopen this case?

Speaker 2 (01:04:36.558)
So they reopened it in 2016. So Soaked in Bleach comes out in 2015. immediately Courtney starts working on Montage of Heck. And if you watch them, some time, like when you have like a rainy Sunday, watch the both of them and you can tell the contrast. Because Soaked in Bleach was written by the PI that he hired, or she hired, excuse me, that, you know, he's, I'm gonna go find Kurt Cobain. And then as it unfolds, he's like, wait a minute, like.

She did this, right? The montage of heck was written by Courtney Love and it spins it very much into his drug use and depression and he killed himself and you know, was there some of that? Absolutely. Can both things be true? Yes, but the whole thing just stinks. But watch both of them.

And I mean, you can see it like it's her PR patrol. in, sorry, go back to your question. So 2015, Soap to Bleach comes out and then they reopened it, I think it's 16 or 17. And it was that picture, they came out, they got the gun, like we were re-examining this, everybody's holding their breath and they're like, nope, it was suicide. He did it himself. Like nothing, like it was the same thing.

Really? How did they get to that point?

That's Seattle PD, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00.15)
Okay, so is there any significance to that phrase, soaked in bleach? Is that a Nirvana lyric? Is there something bleaching?

Okay. And come as you are. The lyric and comes you are. Yeah. Very good. And he says it kind of funny. His leg. Good blue. It's kind of funny. So it's kind of iconic.

Thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20.64)
Well, so I hate, I hate when there's injustice and someone's getting away with stuff. But that's exactly what it sounds like. Brad, do you have a thought on that?

I don't know, can you hear me? Can you can't hear me, can you?

No, I can't hear you now.

I don't know why. You muted me. You muted me. You muted me.

the

Speaker 1 (01:06:51.022)
I bet you hung up on me. No, you hung up. I didn't hang up. You hung up.

I said you hung up I didn't hang up on me I was asking you can you can you see my screen now like with you

I don't know how to

Speaker 3 (01:07:09.966)
Not that there's anything wrong with that. I'm just telling you it's just Just telling you what I see

Why you screaming? Really? You can see pics of your dad either.

she can't hear what you have to say. I guess I'll call you again. Hang on. I'll call you. my gosh. This is the most professional show ever. Hang on,

I'm seeing really important stuff too. The things I'm seeing are profound. It really could be. And so anyway, that is the way I really look at the universe. And I think that is why the existence of God is probably laid out in all of its entirety right there.

I'm just saying, very important.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35.414)
Maybe we're changing, honestly.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52.846)
She missed out on the meat.

Kelly go ahead and respond to my whole theory there on God in

Can you respond to his whole theory on God and whatnot? No, you can't. Okay, very good. So what else do we want to talk about today? Because that's dirty. I mean, I hate that. I did not know all these details at all.

You never heard of any of this,

heard I know I've heard that there were suspicions and stuff like that and I think back 20 years ago maybe I heard that it was physically impossible with the shotgun but all this other stuff no I haven't taken the time shame on me

Speaker 1 (01:08:34.575)
So this is hitting you in the first time.

Effectively. Effectively. not like Courtney Love is some sympathetic character ever. So it's not a stretch to think that she could have been the mastermind or at least. So hold on a second, Kelly. How many people, have we thought about this? How many people would Courtney Love

Yeah.

We just.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59.296)
from home.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05.922)
have to involve in her plot and keep quiet and how were they paid to keep quiet and do we have can we trace money transfers or anything like that?

Thank

down to the nanny drug dealer. I mean, it wouldn't take more than that. if he's a so he's so he's a drug dealer. They know that he's living with them. Hey, Kurt, you know, I got what

Let's get high. Maybe puts too much of a syringe and then takes them up and kills them.

Mmm.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38.926)
Hold on, on, on, hold on. Here's my question. Who dragged him to the greenhouse again? Do we know?

Speaker 2 (01:09:48.29)
dealer dude.

Not just.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57.422)
Hold on, I'm the one drinking, bro.

know but it's just far enough that makes you try to slow down. Doesn't matter how much you try you end up selling like a tar.

You can't outsmart the delay, bro.

I care about you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14.676)
Thank

Okay,

to get him up there. He wasn't a big dude. think he, I think I read somewhere when he died, he was like...

so OK. If there was one, if someone's listening to this and they're saying OK, you know this is very intriguing. What is there one specific documentary that you would recommend? Is it soaked in bleach? Is that on like Amazon Netflix?

drag him out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32.131)
Thank

Speaker 2 (01:10:44.61)
Stoked and bleed.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50.422)
it was on Netflix for little while. I think you can find it on Amazon now. There's a bunch of books out there too.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01.55)
Yes, and that was only I think it's only on YouTube now. It's real old, but I think it's only on you

to.

You know, I'm about to say something that's going to see to me, it sounds like a pro tip, but to everybody else, it's going to sound like I'm just a boomer. And like I discovered this for the first time, but, I will say that when I ask, is it on Netflix? Is it on prime? And a lot of people don't realize this when I tell them this, if you have a Roku device, right. And you search on Roku for something, it will show you all of the options for everything.

That's not as easy as you make it.

What do mean it's not as easy? What are you talking about, bro?

Speaker 1 (01:11:41.07)
What did I just say?

So when you go to Roku and you type in Kurt and Courtney, or Courtney and Kurt.

it seem like you just go there and type in.

And then at the bottom it says, oh, you could pay $1.99 on Prime or you can get it for free at Netflix with a subscription. We're like, well, screw that. I'm not paying extra. just, love, mind. Told you it was gonna sound like a boomer. Okay, so what else do we wanna discuss? Because-

before you move on, because I did want to make a point that there's a fabulous video essay on YouTube right now about that. It's called, yeah, Piracy is the Answer. And it's about all the different streaming services and now how everything's gotten so far out of hand that we're back to cable 2.0 paying too much for all these different streaming services.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40.567)
It makes it really a compelling argument for video piracy, which I just want.

Okay, so so Brad bring that to the table for tomorrow's Friday live stream, would you?

bring it to the table for tomorrow's Friday live stream. Okay. I tell you what, Kelly, why don't we do this? Why don't you find yourself like a good microphone setup? And then what we'll do is when we do the next Barfleet, we'll pick a date that works for you and we'll go over, because we still have half a dozen topics. I know. Right? And I don't want to do the whole show for the audience and for my arms sake.

you

Speaker 3 (01:13:23.758)
and just hold the microphone there because we love having you on. let me know when you get the microphone situation figured out and we will have you back on. Okay. All right. Are you sure? You're pissed. She is pissed Brad. Can you tell? Okay. What does that mean?

You're so-

Speaker 2 (01:13:47.214)
So.

Whenever they say, don't worry about it.

Right? I swear, all we need from Kelly right now is it's fine. I'm fine.

you

All right, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, I will have you on again very soon. Please keep in touch. Let me know, OK? Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06.926)
I'm sad now because I was really just here for Kelly and now I'm stuck with you.

miss you. Bye, Kelly. Bye, see you, bye.

you can really read it.

Because what?

hung up on you by the way. So now you can unmute your microphone. Okay. Okay, hang on now. Do I need to unmute your mic? Who unmutes who here? I don't even know how this site works.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33.14)
me there you go okay now you can hear me now it was just enough of of that delay that i thought i was gonna go insane

She's awesome. I love having her on. We need to get a microphone situation and have her back. that's the thing. She's going to go to Amazon and buy a microphone and it's still not going to work.

We even know what the

Speaker 1 (01:15:01.356)
Before she does that though, I mean...

What? We don't even know that's what the issue was. I mean, it's frustrating. I'm frustrated. I'm just I'm tense and frustrated now. Can you rub my feet the way you usually do when I get tense and frustrated? It's fine, baby. It'll make me feel better.

Listen, listen, do you remember last week? You're gonna love this. I'm so sorry. I'm apologizing to Brad in advance. It's a public apology. Brad Staggs, you've been asking me about your screen situation on my screen, right? Yeah. And I said it's black. And that's all I see.

Don't grovel.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39.51)
Right.

So put that on a show for just a moment. Do you remember, do you remember last week before we went live with Rebecca and she had connected behind the scenes, she had connected probably 10 minutes before I scrolled down and I realized, Oh shit, she's connected. Hi, Rebecca. know? Okay. Well, when I just, when I just got rid of Kelly for lack of a better term, I went, okay. Her screen went away.

Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58.295)
yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09.038)
when you dump the babe.

And so apparently I need to remember how to scroll down because. See Brad screen now and it's this. good Lord, what is happening? What is that?

because suddenly there's mine.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25.102)
the image I wanted to bring up there because it looks doesn't she look like a freaking monster from hell? I mean she looks like she's ready to eat Kurt Cobain there she was like a monster compared to him she outweighed him by a good 30 lbs and isn't that Francis the kid who by the way do you know how old Francis is now? 30 freaking two

gosh.

It doesn't feel like that much time has gone by.

You know, I am becoming less and less of a fan of time.

I know it sucks balls.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59.284)
The older I get, the less I like time.

I'm go on record of saying I don't like time.

man, and Julie left the chat. Julie's like Julie forever. She says, bye all. Sorry guys, my ears can't take it anymore.

Well, then she can go to YouTube later and because Wes, Wes fixes the audio when it when it's on delay, like he'll put it on rumble in Spotify. Poor Wes, he's got

Blast good luck!

Speaker 1 (01:17:29.826)
Toby says, good, now we have congested resonant rep.

I don't understand what happened. don't see. This is why I have to go to this thing to see the other comments. Okay. no. Yeah. How are you feeling anyway?

congested

Speaker 1 (01:17:44.64)
I feel fine now that the drugs have kicked in for the most part fully. I was so

Yeah, what did you have for real?

I don't know what I don't. I went to the, um, uh, like, I think it's called rapid med rapid or whatever the hell it was like one of those quickie clinics where you go in for a quickie. Yeah, but that sounds like you're dying. I realized my arm fell off and I need help stapling it back on urgent care. It wasn't really urgent. It was like, it's just one of those places where you go. If you, Hey, look, I just need to get a whole, some good drugs and inject them into me so I can leave.

Make urgent care.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20.896)
And but when I got there and it was like 20 minutes away from the motel here and I get there and I walk in and and because I have to be pretty much dying before I go to the doctor because I'm stubborn that way. And so I find I'm just I'll go and I was like, can I have your ID and your and your insurance card? I'm like, here's my ID and and I'm looking around. I was pissed. Then I find out then I find out.

No.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50.23)
I don't even have an insurance card anymore because now it's like, you know, it's electronic, which I'm a fan of the electronic. I'm not that big a boomer that I don't want to have electronic insurance cards, but I had been told that I had had the electronic card sent to me, but I wasn't aware of it. so anyway, I turned, I said, well, you know what? I'll, I'll come back later. And then, so after I left the place and drove all the way back, to the home,

I was like, I'm not getting back in the, in the vehicle and driving back over there again, screw it. And so I've just, and it felt like it was going away. Was that just yesterday? Holy shit. That was just yesterday.

So you still don't know what you have?

I still and I will not I refuse to take a test in a box with a fox on a plane in a drain. It's not the Rona. I know that because this is what the Rona does. Is it? What does the Rona even do?

think it changes person year to year person to person. Yeah, I think it just now it kind of freewheels it now.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49.623)
Is that?

I

Speaker 1 (01:19:55.51)
It really does. mean, I'm not going to take a rona test because now I'm just morally opposed to it. Brad sounds like AM radio. Kelly also sounds like AM radio. Jonathan says Brad is on drugs and Keith is drinking great combo for radio. Right? Technically, this isn't radio.

So.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20.27)
Well, is intact. But I missed my point. The whole point was I was going to get Kelly all excited about because she's Roswell too, she's into the Roswell thing. And one of the things that is going out, she's never coming back.

yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36.162)
No, she's coming back! Save your question!

That's what they all say before you. So I'm to run down to the gas station, get a pack of smokes. And the last thing that's the last thing you ever hear from them.

Hold on, before I close your screen here, I just want to say you're running out of time to take advantage of the Southwest Airlines Lovefield $80.

Be sure you know what can I say fuck them?

I am bro. Let's talk about Southwest Airlines.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03.8)
But let me make my point first, because I was going to tell Kelly and everybody else about the exciting thing that's going into this next quarter's insider subscriber box. It's going to be replicas of the pieces of alien craft and tech that were found at Roswell. This is some of the reproduced pieces of the alien materials that were found at Roswell. They're meticulously, can you see them okay?

Hold it right up to the camera. How do I get those?

You have to be a subscriber. I can't show them too closely because then you just steal them from me. You just don't try to take... You've got to do that sometime is do one of these things where...

So.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44.076)
Get out of work! wait, hold on, hold on.

Yeah, you see where I'm going, Yeah, yeah, yeah, hang on. Yep, yep, yep. Okay, do it again, do it again. You're right, here you go, you go ahead.

I'm taking it, I'm taking it. Oh yeah! You got it, see? Yes! Wait, it's a ballpoint pen.

changed. It's what alien materials do. does. Well, you go to the daily mojo.com and then you click on insider club and then you become a supporter of the platform and the channel and you if you are I don't know it's one of the higher up

what happens when it goes through the fiber optics. Okay, how do people get the piece of the

Speaker 1 (01:22:21.838)
thing you do is where you have to pay for different levels and so but if you do pay for it if you climb off your freaking stack of money and send us some of it because you don't need all that freaking money

Yeah, come on, help a brother out.

Greedy sob sitting out there

who you are. Somebody's watching right now going, know, I've been freeloading off this shit.

I didn't and then we don't like that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43.842)
Fork it over. Right. VDailyMojo.com. would like to know where Mr. Jonathan Mole, are you on an American Airlines flight right now?

F American Airlines as well while you're at it.

Wait, hold on. says, Airlines computers make Keith's setup look like Area 51. So does that mean you're... I'm trying to figure out what an American Airlines computer is. Are you on an American Airlines flight? I don't know. I need more information from Jonathan Moll.

What does that mean?

Speaker 1 (01:23:15.744)
And let let keep saying we should do a Roswell mojo meetup. keeps, he's going to, but I would love that down in, in, in Roswell. I hope that we can get that done. I don't know yet.

but I I'm gonna be in Roswell on or about, dammit, I bought the worst fucking calendar ever. Like any, I can't explain this calendar adequately. just, it sucks. It sucks donkey balls.

I

Speaker 1 (01:23:45.698)
How do you? Hang on. Wow, you had me a donkey ball.

And August, hang on, and August around the, on, watch this. This is how I have to do this to get to August. Let's see here, August 19, around the 25 through 27-ish of

August? Okay. Have you been to Roswell before or no?

So.

Just drove through it, haven't stopped.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12.43)
It's a fascinating little town. it's both.

Or a museum or both? So you think I should spend time in the town or?

Well...

It's an interesting, we spent a weekend there and there's, could come up with enough stuff to do, but like when Don, Don Schmidt was on a couple of, what two, three weeks ago, however, how long ago that was and he lived there, right?

I thought he lived there anyway. I did. As I was going off your your nod to him thinking he lived in, I'm at well Keith. No, he lives there, so I'm going to say he lives there too and no.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53.102)
Yeah, he travels back and forth.

between that universe and a different, like a...

Yes, and I don't know how often he's in Roswell and I'm not gonna ask because I don't want to mess him up with the IRS, you know, so I will say that No, no, I'm saying, you you say like where you live certain amount of the year

JRS after him too.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15.822)
I'm not even haunted.

So August 14th, he'll be back on here. So August 14th, Mr. Schmidt, Don Schmidt, he will be back on here for part two of our Roswell discussion. And then, I mean, I'm giving you guys plenty of heads up. I mean, it's freaking three and a half months away, but August 14th will be the last show until after Labor Day. How's that make you

Hold on, you're coming in clearer now.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42.35)
Can you wear white after Labor Day? you go that far?

Oh yeah, that's very important to me. I will not wear... What was the thing again? What? How does that start? Google that for me.

I did actually once, because I was fascinated as like, GROCKET. Is that a thing or was she just trying to be hip and cool?

I think it's a thing now. It's better than Google.

Why can't you? I can't wait a minute. I just typed in, can't you wear and it auto filled white after Labor Day.

Speaker 3 (01:26:06.798)
Can I just- hold on

Speaker 3 (01:26:14.391)
F you Google.

I don't like being listened to. I mean, except for in the context of like this show.

Are we still gonna go swinging later?

By the way, let me show you this. LEP, it's never been acknowledged, I don't believe. What a cool hat, right?

Leprechaun's wear hats like

Speaker 3 (01:26:33.745)
is that what? yeah, it's it's I thought never I didn't realize

He's not a leper. He's a leper con. Anyhow, the rule against wearing white after Labor Day, long-standing fashion tradition, not a rule that's enforced in any way. Okay, thank you.

We're gonna arrest your ass!

you and don't laugh they might 2025 it right it stems from the idea that white was a color associated with summer and leisure and after Labor Day blah blah blah

Okay, what is this? This is the, you know this is? This is the anti-Don Johnson rule. That's not cool. They targeted one guy with this stupid rule.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10.368)
It kind of is, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17.688)
Well, happened, didn't it? Well, hold on a second. Today, the rule, you might want to know that today the rule is considered outdated by many and wearing white after Labor Day is perfectly acceptable. Follow me.

doing it you won't tell me what to do and you won't tell me what to wear I may not wear anything you know just

Do you know that white clothes can be more difficult to keep clean?

Say that again.

It says right here, white clothes can be more difficult to keep clean, especially in the city with dirt and grime.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47.512)
You know what? I have discovered there is a good book. I, you know what? Hang on. There's this cleaner and they're not an advert. No, it's downstairs. Nevermind. no, there is a cleaner that you like mix with water and stuff. And it is the most powerful thing. This is what sucks, man. I'm telling, I'm giving you guys life hacks and I'll try to remember before the Friday live stream. Cause they don't have it in here. I've got to show you this stuff. It is so amazing.

Boom. A boomer.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57.198)
Have you got euphemism?

Speaker 3 (01:28:17.844)
It'll clean the shower. It'll clean your clothes. I mean, it sounds like they're paying me. They pay me jack shit. I'm just telling you that I have a cleaner.

It's a dessert topping. It's a floor wax.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35.182)
you

Speaker 1 (01:28:40.398)
that works well to Danny. what's

How far is the actual crash site from Roswell? It's always out there. It's like an hour away.

But see, I like to do this every summer.

or wear white.

It's called Get Away From the Texas Heat. And I spend most of my time in Colorado. It's gonna be hot as hell. So once I leave Colorado and I commit to New Mexico, then to Texas the rest of the way, I'm back into summer. So that's why I'm like, I don't know how many days I'm gonna spend in Roswell necessarily.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22.196)
If yeah, you're not going there for the crisp summer days because you your ass will melt out there in the heat.

Meet me out there in August, bro.

Are we gonna go swinging? I like this. You know when you're swinging in those chairs, you get the breeze more going on you and you can get everything all breezed out if you think about it. All with in in in stuff, all with stuff, all with and stuff.

NO!

Lord

Speaker 3 (01:30:03.406)
Okay, what's going on? He is. Hey, did you hear that Jordan, I can't remember her last name. Did you hear that she was wearing a ring on that finger the other day?

the

Hold on, that's my level of for Bill Belichick, okay? The headline said, Jordan, whatever the hell our last name is, seen wearing a ring on that finger. Yours truly did not click that, because they don't care. I'm just letting you know, that's what the headline said.

Well, that's the, that's the joke about the guy who, um, goes into the dentist and then he sits down and the dentist is like, open your mouth. Starts to claim the dentist goes, Hey, you see that, uh, dental assistant over there? And, yeah, he's, I'm, baffling her and he's like, the guy goes, why are you telling me? says, hell, I'm telling everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00.536)
Do you know do you know at some point bill powder check? Let's

did not come in very clear and I'm pissed. I want to hear a rim shot, please. Hey! That's bad.

Yeah, yeah, it's good. It's good. It's good. Bill Belichick. What? were you about to say?

and

the

Speaker 1 (01:31:28.76)
Bill, who's Bill Belichick? I don't even know now. I have no idea.

It's all map.

I interrupted you and that messed up your training. I that's the first sign of dementia, bro. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45.326)
Who is?

We've no idea.

Do you have, uh, do you have, uh...

You know what it is. He's tired. He looks over at that and he goes. Boy, am I tired of that.

And that's the, you know that's true.

Speaker 3 (01:32:02.278)
you're still, okay, yeah, he's, yeah, he's.

He looks over, especially if he looks over and he sees that. Can you see that now?

sorry, he sees that. My bad, my bad.

you have to push the button. You just can't wish it when he looks over and see you know the look. You know that look. Every man knows and some lesbian women know that look. And that look that is the no you go ahead you go ahead and go to sleep everything will be fine. You just go you go you go you just go ahead and take your nap and everything will be fine when you wake up.

because there's no good time to really show this, but I don't know the best. Yes. I'm going to name it Brad Jr. So I don't know where my kids got this collection of like emoji balls. See that? Look at that thing. They were sitting over. I'm holding my emoji ball. this. Somebody help me out. What the hell? What?

Speaker 1 (01:33:00.364)
You were holding your emoji ball?

Speaker 3 (01:33:09.135)
Emotion is this trying to evoke anger?

I don't know, it's the demon one, because there's no pupil.

Is it constipation? Like what is happening? Okay, so there's that one. Now this one is like, I don't know, I think he's trying to be like, hee hee hee, but it looks creepy as well, right?

Good point.

Speaker 3 (01:33:27.918)
What is okay this guy is he's yummy or something I don't know what's going on there either

Have you seen the.

He's right there.

That is scared. And that's the.

Have you ever seen the Eli Manning Saturday night live bit where he's on the fuck, man, I can't even get, I could never be a weatherman on TV. So what is the story there? I mean that, you seen the Eli Manning? Everyone continue to watch this show, but however, later you must go to YouTube and type in Eli Manning, SNL, courtroom because

Speaker 1 (01:33:54.316)
Yeah

Speaker 1 (01:34:15.246)
I don't think I've seen that one.

because he's asked to they they read texts to him that he has sent out to women and and he has to it's okay hold on hold on what's that what okay what is this one this this is he's not happy he's like i can't talk about this so i don't know where these came from

They're they're kind of wait. yeah, you've got that one right side up now. Yes. There you go Yeah, put the X at the top. No, no, go the other way. There you go Now that almost makes it look like that's just a person looking up at the boo-boo on their head. See But the first one that you held up with the no pupils reminded me of the meme that I saw I think it was earlier this morning is it Okay, that's what it looks like cuz

This one possessed?

Speaker 1 (01:35:07.284)
Look at the image I just put up on my screen because this is the note to self. Don't look at the floor trying to look cute when you have silver eyeshadow on because then it just looks like you're.

You know, that is not good. That's a bad look.

isn't that weird? not look at the floor

that's a bad look. Yikes. It's accentuated because she's black. And so it kind of stands out more. You know what, honestly.

Yes it

Speaker 1 (01:35:37.326)
Remember that.

Let me get look like eyes at that point.

Remember the picture of all the white chicks and there was the black chick in the in the picture, but the contrast was set so that you couldn't see her. It was like how many women are in this photograph and you don't remember that.

No, I've seen a white chick like that.

There's a white chick at a beach and it says like, I don't know what it says, but she's like invisible. She like blends in with.

Speaker 1 (01:36:05.802)
Yeah, but can't be seen can't be how a boomer. I'm like, just ask the question of, of Mr. Grockle. Google was a racist racist photo of a bunch of because that's what it is. It's like how many are there? And it's like there's eight you racist because you can't you know, yeah, do know what you call a black man in space?

No, I'm afraid that I'm not answering this.

What? You don't know what you call a black man in space? astronaut, you racist.

an astronaut.

I'm going to

Speaker 3 (01:36:48.802)
What are we going to talk about tomorrow with Rebecca?

how much she loves living in Sweden. What? did I same thing?

That's Norway!

What did I hold on a second? Hold on. me, let me, I'm gonna give a little behind the scenes for, for the good folk here. let me, cause I got to look up my, the email that I sent you. on. So here.

meme.

Speaker 3 (01:37:15.182)
Okay, here we go. Here we go. So we got topics that include but are not limited to we got to talk about that fight that I sent you Brad, I know you haven't clicked on the email I sent you just just nod along and act like you have let's You you wing it you wing it you wing it So what did you think about the the couple that fought with the guy at the football game?

I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:37.664)
It was crazy. I mean, the fight the way at the football game. I mean, it's in public. It's nuts that way.

never heard of the phrase dog.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50.542)
and be thinking about the Melania body double at the Pope Francis funeral.

Well, of course, there's a couple of they did they use her underwear.

Gentlemen what I am doing is I am reading the email for Brad so that he doesn't have to read it before tomorrow's Friday live stream at 3 p.m. Eastern here on X The other thing that we're gonna talk about which you don't need me to tell you because you obviously already read the email We have three Epstein accusers now dad like to hear your thoughts on that one and then My family says so so it must be true. let's see here

Did she commit suicide?

Speaker 1 (01:38:30.286)
Even though she five years ago said I'm not suicidal. Now I walk in chains in five years. She tweeted out that I'm not suicidal.

a lot of has happened.

A lot of stuff can happen in five years. get six years. Okay. get it.

But and then what is the what?

That little habit that I have that most people don't know about? I'll tell you what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:38:51.616)
I'm never gonna talk about that on air.

you didn't want the little finger thing?

You told me in confidence, so I don't want to... What is the 100 men versus the gorilla thing? That's stupid. I want you to talk about that tomorrow. I already knew that that was in the email.

I'll never, I'll never mention it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08.568)
I'm sorry. did. I did know that that was in the email.

good. I'm glad to note that there is no mildew or what was it fungus growing at the bottom of my my fric- My grimace is not a butt plug, it's grimace.

Hmong of your butt plug cup.

He's a that's a grimace is a butt plug. He's a butt plug. He is a giant purple butt plug. I'm sorry, but it's just that's what he is. And I why do you have to shame him there? What is wrong with being a giant purple butt plug? It's twenty twenty five. If you want to identify as a giant purple butt plug, I support your right with whatever pronouns, even if your pronouns are my butt plug.

Same on you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:57.228)
Time out, time out, time out, time out, time out. First of all, no, Jonathan, I'm not disappearing to Colorado for a month. It's only two weeks, okay? And then the other part of that is, the other thing I wanted to put up here, where is this? Where did it go? I just saw it. Look at this, look at this. Look, another Jonathan comment. Jonathan really participated today. I've never really gotten all this kind of commentary from him. I thought her dad came out today.

And so they got to her. I didn't hear that.

I have not heard that.

Quite a development.

There's your there. That's the image you were looking for right there.

Speaker 3 (01:40:42.632)
my word! Put that in a Happy Meal.

Four hours ago, New York Post. Virginia Jeffray's father insists she didn't die by suicide. Somebody got to her.

Email that to me, please do my job for me for tomorrow's battery and least it's in my show prep I haven't I haven't done any show prep by this time on most days

Take a look, first of all, and I'll send it.

I have to look at what you put on your screen. You want me to put that on the screen?

Speaker 1 (01:41:14.456)
I mean, if you want to, we didn't discover it after all.

there we go.

Okay, that is so freaking weird. I mean it's not weird

Now they're gonna get to him. He better watch out.

And this on top of, what the hell? Look at that other headline in there. Porn star decapitated couple kept heads in freezer before dumping remains a popular landmark.

Speaker 3 (01:41:46.018)
What a good way to go out though, am right?

You go out doing what you love, right?

Have you ever read the book, Captains and the Kings?

Please Sorry, I'm still re- No. What's in the Captain's and the King's book?

Well, you need to read it. don't like fiction.

Speaker 1 (01:42:02.062)
Where does the king keep his armies? That's what I want to know.

Speaker 3 (01:42:09.07)
So I'm not a big fiction fan.

in his sleevies.

Speaker 3 (01:42:14.702)
I don't get it.

Where does the king keep his armies? and it's the kid, God. Had too much to drink. Now your jokes aren't making sense. Not that they normally do. So it keeps his armies in his sleveys. I got it now. Sorry.

Tequila really is good when it's watered down.

Thank you.

I don't read a lot of fiction. I will say that my favorite book of all time, however, is a fiction book and it is To Kill a Mockingbird. And it's the only book that I've read twice. Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:42:49.282)
That is kind of weird. That is weird.

Okay, so there's that. then, Captains and the Kings, everybody needs to read that, because then you can understand the world we're living in today, even though it's fiction, according to Taylor Caldwell. But there's a scene in that book where an individual, a gentleman, goes out with a smile on his face. I'll say.

You came in with.

Speaker 3 (01:43:20.408)
feel like we should probably wrap it up right there. No, Brad, you are such a trooper. I am so grateful that you hung out today because I know you've been sick as a dog all week. You and I are on a group chat and I didn't realize that you were so deathly ill until I think yesterday.

I just feel like it's about

Speaker 1 (01:43:39.214)
I don't even think it was deathly. I I hate to really even seem like it was bad.

You're just, you're that tough. You're just, you're just a man.

just needed a little pussy. Yeah. Shit. Hold on. just sat on. Whoa. This is going to get awkward in a minute. Hey, I just unplugged myself so I can't hear anything. I can't hear you but I really should be able to hear you because it's really not comfortable right now. I'm sitting on my own tail. Oh, that's a cat.

Alright! Shave that thing.

Speaker 3 (01:44:03.342)
good, let's talk about.

Hi, Doc Kitty.

Speaker 3 (01:44:11.79)
Do you have his Batman mask? No, he can't hear. We'll just wait patiently for Brad to get his ears back in.

I'll be able to hear you all in a second.

Speaker 1 (01:44:22.318)
Mine right now. There we go. Now I can hear you.

Okay, so and then that's the way the God particle was discovered.

It's the way, uh-huh, uh-huh, I like it. Uh-huh. Yes.

So I got a question. You've seen the Batman kitty cat video. No, I don't want to see his butthole. I'm not into his butthole at all.

You could be for $9.95 a month. He has an OnlyFans. What? You act like it's, it's 2025. Look, don't be such a prude. He's not unhappy about it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:01.496)
So you have the Batman mask and can you demonstrate with us because that video is hilarious where the cat.

He's bye bye. he went all the way down in the pit of hell

no! Bro!

He's He's we'll never see him again. He just All the way down It was rough nobody

no! I hate that!

Speaker 3 (01:45:29.165)
for him.

Lord, I hate it when they And the cat does it.

yeah. Told you the shape you-

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

How do you know the-

Speaker 3 (01:45:43.79)
This is what happens to me when I drink.

There's hardwood floors. There's the carpet.

That dog? Now I got a dog in here. You you put a wrapper on the floor. think they can... You know what you eat in that cellophane? You I'm not taking you to the doctor, Tanner.

The worst thing is that this particular animal has a thing for Post-it notes when you crumple a Post-it note. You do that. It's like, shooop. And I don't even know what is it about a Post-it note being crumpled?

HUH?

Speaker 3 (01:46:11.211)
my god.

Speaker 3 (01:46:15.8)
Where's my picture of Gertrude? Hang on. Yeah, right here. Look at this, right here. Until Tanner came along. Could you ever meet Gertrude?

I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:46:28.842)
Anyway, yeah, you remember when you brought that huge table from the blaze that they were getting rid of? Okay.

I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (01:46:39.63)
You didn't tell me. Anyway, you're like, it's merely a flesh wound. Anyway, if you brought that table here before 2017, you met

If it did.

Speaker 1 (01:46:46.817)
Flash, we'll come back here.

Speaker 1 (01:46:52.545)
I did, so I must've.

Yeah, or 2015 or whatever.

When did I?

She died September 2015. So anyway, yeah, you brought that big art table for the kids. So, whenever I would crumble up Post-it notes or little piece of paper, she was like getting to like attack mode. And so- Isn't that weird? But hang on, it gets better. If I threw it, she would be like, not interested. Okay? This is fascinating. And I don't understand the pet psychology here. But if I would throw the paper ball, she wouldn't care as much as if I-

put it in my hand and flicked it and then it launched it. And then she would go and chase it down, fetch it, bring it back to me. So what I did eventually is when I had time is I would set up all these like newspaper. Kids, there's these things called newspapers. It's a long story.

Speaker 1 (01:47:45.224)
We used to cut down trees, chop them up into little bitty pieces, crush them, smooth them out, take ink and write words onto the crushed up trees. Then we would roll those up, put a rubber band around them and throw them in your driveway overnight.

have a question. What's ink?

Kids, used to use blood.

We first you know what? It's so funny you mentioned that because this morning I just had the thought this very morning I Leave at random times in the morning depending on when I wake up the alarm is set for three I never make it to three I wander out of the house at random times it just occurred to me this morning ironically enough with you talking about paper boys and delivery newspapers stuff It used to be once every few weeks when I'd leave the neighborhood. I'd see the

Paper man boy tossing papers and shit.

Speaker 1 (01:48:40.544)
a paper man boy come down he was strange fellow about that

I thought this very morning, Brad, I thought I haven't seen the paper man boy. I haven't seen him years. I haven't seen the paper man boy in my neighborhood paper boy, man.

years!

Speaker 2 (01:48:59.649)
You

He was a strange little man boy he was. Where did he go?

Now what the audience is, I'm trying to figure it out. Are we going to hit five o'clock Eastern first or are we going to hit a thousand viewers? Cause right now we're at nine 96 and so help me. better. We get to a thousand. We are out. Now people are to start clicking out.

get to a thousand bail.

Speaker 1 (01:49:23.47)
bastards.

So anyway, what were we talking? yeah, so I would have these newspapers on the floor, Gert would go and get the pieces of paper, the wadded up little Post-it note that I flick, and she'd bring it back, and then she would slide through the paper that was on the floor. It was a production. That cat lived, listen to me, I adopted that cat in Norfolk, Nebraska, brought it back to Lincoln.

The man-bear pig.

Speaker 1 (01:49:46.134)
I'm listening.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51.938)
Norfolk

nor fuck Nebraska. I'm telling you, when YouTube sends me an email that says that we've demonetized your video because it

love your fuck Nebraska.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03.342)
Because you keep saying, Norfolk, Nebraska?

It's a city. Let it go. So Gert was born in Norfolk, Nebraska.

I love Norfolk, Nebraska.

You know what, they call it Norfolk or Norfolk, but we call it Norfolk.

Fuck Nebraska.

Speaker 3 (01:50:22.688)
My apologies if you're driving around with your kids right now. I love you.

Nothing wrong with Norfolk, Nebraska. Get into a bigger.

No, there's Johnny Carson. And it's also the hometown of Karen. What are we looking at? What is this? Yeah, we're at 1001 now. I should probably just.

998.

saying that. it doesn't say there. Yeah, you you're right. Go.

Speaker 3 (01:50:42.872)
Can I finish my story though? This cat Gertrude, smartest creature I knew until Tanner came along. Gert lived in Norfolk, then lived with me in college in Lincoln, Nebraska, then moved to Atlanta, Georgia with me. And then we moved to Houston, Texas, and then we moved to Omaha, Nebraska. Then we moved to Charleston, South Carolina. Then we moved to New Jersey, New York, New Jersey.

Right?

Speaker 3 (01:51:11.106)
Then we moved to Dallas, Texas. That cat lived 17 and a half years and lived in eight places. And you know what sucks is when you lose a pet that has been with you for so long, it's like your last connection to, for me it was college, right, in Lincoln.

Or North Fuck Nebraska

No, that's Carrie's hometown. That's just where we adopted the cat. I'm not gonna

I happen to like Norfolk, Nebraska.

I don't know why that's so controversial.

Speaker 3 (01:51:41.804)
Hold on, hold on. We call this in my house, we call this delaying the inevitable. I have work to do for tomorrow's Pat Gray Unleashed, which is going to have very, at this point, very few video clips.

except for Virginia DeFray's dad coming out and saying, right.

Right, right, right, right, right. But my point is, this is where, like, if we have stuff we have to clean or a closet we have to organize, we just figure out a way to delay the inevitable. And I feel like that's what we're doing now. Like, I need to go and prep for tomorrow's show, but instead, we're talking about Norfolk, Nebraska.

I love

My question is, what is your favorite thing about Norfolk?

Speaker 1 (01:52:23.554)
I think just being there, I think just being, just being in Norfolk, Nebraska, just being in the middle of it. I enjoy it. I enjoy the whole, the whole experience really quite frankly, from beginning to end. It's like a climactic experience when you've been there.

I will tell you.

Speaker 3 (01:52:42.402)
You know, one thing that people don't realize about Norfolk is it gets wet quite a bit.

It does. Yeah, bring a towel. Wisconsin Jackal says who listens to this with kids? That's a great, a great question.

It's a smart person right there.

Brad enjoys the humidity. do enjoy the humidity in Norfolk, Nebraska.

It's very sticky. Again, I recommend bringing the blue shop towel.

Speaker 3 (01:53:09.976)
So Brad, Brad, you, it?

Am I being too forward with you to just put you on the spot and say, hey, because I'm going to be in Roswell, New Mexico on August 25th-ish through 27th-ish, I need you to be there. This is the calendar. I paid good money for this calendar, and it can't even stay on the wall. You piece of god.

You can't, you know what? It's bad if you can't keep that up, especially when you're in Norfolk, Nebraska. That's problem.

who wants to hang out in Roswell, New Mexico?

Well, will admit, it's possible that I will have been there previously, like...

Speaker 3 (01:53:56.706)
You know, the aliens suck. should have been in Roswell in August 25th-ish. Hang on. I will tell you exactly when I'm gonna be in Roswell. Hang on. Well, it's hard to know because I'm camping in northern New Mexico. I think it'll be around the 25th. Yeah, but it's just roughly the 25th. No, Hang on.

There's another headline to New York Post. Experienced skydiver with over 400 jumps appears to have leapt to her death on purpose. Why would you?

You know, it's better to do it that way than to jump off of a bridge onto an interstate during rush hour traffic and affect thousands of people.

It's kind of rude, yes, doing it.

you find a good out of the way place. Like I often said, if I ever do this, it's gonna be like the Grand Canyon, because I don't wanna like mess up people's commutes.

Speaker 1 (01:54:47.285)
I don't want to think about it on the way.

I don't want no if that's if you're either way too much time to change your mind on the way down. That's a good thing. This is really a bad I did.

That's a good point. You know what? was this? Where was this calendar made? Guys, I don't feel like doing show prep for Pat tomorrow. So let's just wing it on the Friday show and let's just hang out right now. Brad, you don't have anything going on tonight, right? You're just hanging out, right?

All right, so just ask. OK, so now we're going to do ask Brad anything.

Once in college, but I was drunk, so it really doesn't count.

Speaker 3 (01:55:26.968)
You know what? I want to know where this calendar was made because now I'm pissed. It's gotta be.

China.

Speaker 1 (01:55:34.474)
If you can't get it up on the wall, it's in China.

There's nothing there's nothing acute about that and your angina. That's all I got.

You know what, while I've got y'all here, let me just real quickly say that it's frustrating.

You should have gotten out when they hit a thousand.

No, it's frustrating that I can't comment like Brad can on the chat.

Speaker 1 (01:55:59.584)
I can, why can't you?

Bro, I don't know.

It won't let you talk?

It's it's you know how like on the internet's like when something's gray and you can't click it. That's what it says for my chat on the stream yard link. Makes me sad so I can.

Why don't you on Streamyard, why don't you just have it open in a different tab on X? Because that's what I do.

Speaker 3 (01:56:23.906)
Because just, just for the record, I'm still not logged in because I don't remember the login for the Twitter.

I really have got to go. cannot spend another minute here. really have got to.

Hey, I really do hope you feel better. And don't forget, you've already agreed to be a part of tomorrow's show as well.

So.

Hold on a second, you're breaking up just a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:56:45.16)
You and Rebecca are already committed to the-

Great job.

Speaker 1 (01:56:55.596)
I don't know what that one guy gets so excited about, he.

What is that?

Stop!

And what are we listening to?

That's Grok's idea of a bunch of people. can you find Keith a Sony ECM?

Speaker 3 (01:57:13.134)
No, that's for Kelly.

Well, I can see it on your screen.

I know, but Kelly needs to-

Why in ECM 51? don't you? What do have to go get an expensive one like that for? You can get a movo in those movos or movos. Let me just tell you.

Brad, Brad, a microphone for Kelly.

Speaker 1 (01:57:32.513)
I did.

Send it to him.

Good time I gotta go.

Send her the link to Amazon or whatever.

Amazon. Little Amazon.

Speaker 3 (01:57:41.952)
I hope you feel better this Hope you feel better get some rest take some ivermectin just in case and I will see you tomorrow I'll see all of you tomorrow 3 p.m. Eastern. We'll do a Friday live stream with Brad if he's feeling up to it and Rebecca and We got a lot of good stuff to cover. What are you squinting? What is a problem?

I just needed to figure out how get out of this place.

I hit, I hit, no, I hit in stream and then you, you're gonna leave. he wants to, he wants the power. He wants to feel the upper hand. Then we'll let Brad figure out how to leave before I hit. Holy crap. no, where's the end stream? no. Okay. I love y'all. Thank you so much. 3 PM Eastern. Don't forget all the good places where we hang out at the Mike show on Instagram.

No, but...

Speaker 1 (01:58:13.756)
Hey, look what I found in my

Speaker 3 (01:58:30.712)
Tonight at 8 o'clock Eastern, hero Wes is going to put this up on YouTube and rumble. then what were the times again? Hell, already lost it. Sorry, Wes. Tomorrow it's 8 AM Eastern. They're to be on Spotify and iTunes and so on and so forth. And y'all are awesome. Thanks for tolerating me. Holy crap, I've got a bad gotta go. Bye.