Former FBI national security supervisor explains how post-9/11 laws reshaped surveillance, FISA, and civil liberties. What changed and why it matters.

In this Thursday Deep Dive, host Keith Malinak sits down with George Hill, a former FBI National Security Intelligence Supervisor, to examine how the United States transformed in the years following September 11, 2001.

From the post-9/11 Camp David pivot that redefined “national security” to the Patriot Act’s expanded powers, George Hill traces how agencies grew into sprawling domestic-intelligence structures with thin oversight. Drawing on service in the Marines, Navy, NSA, and FBI, he explains how counterterrorism, fusion centers, and surveillance tech blurred protection and liberty. A fact-driven look at tradeoffs, the real costs of the Patriot Act, and what Snowden’s disclosures actually revealed.

Chapters:
00:00:00 Cold Open & Why This Deep Dive
00:03:00 9/11’s Shockwave: “National Security” Redefined
00:09:00 Patriot Act 101: Powers, Promises, Tradeoffs
00:18:00 Building the Machine: From Agencies to an Intel Web
00:27:00 Liberty vs. Safety: Where’s the Line?
00:36:00 Snowden’s Files: What We Learned (and Didn’t)
00:45:00 The Bureau’s Pivot: Prevention, FISA, and “Pre-Crime”
00:54:00 Borders & Risks: How Policy Meets Security
01:03:00 Flashpoints at Home: Polarization and Violence
01:12:00 Takeaways, Guardrails, and What Comes Next

Did the Patriot Act make us safer or less free , and what one guardrail would you add or restore first?

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